Season 2 Finale -
What It Feels Like To Have New Foobs
(reconstruction breast surgery)
Rosalina and Shauna both decided to go with breast implants reconstruction after radiation. In this episode, share their feelings and experiences of their reconstruction breast surgery. They discuss how they are healing post-surgery, what they found helpful during recovery, and their thoughts and expectations about the final results. While Shauna is loving her new implants, Rosalina is still getting used to them.

Meet Rosalina and Shauna, two young millennials living on separate coasts who share real stories about their breast cancer diagnosis. We created this podcast to bring awareness of this disease to young women and create a supportive space where no one is alone on this journey. We dive deep into our treatment plans, journeys, struggles, and mental health while navigating life in this “new” normal. With every episode, our mission is to educate, empower, connect, and bring laughter. We are open and honest about our experiences and committed to learning and growing right alongside you. Welcome to our community! Join us for new episodes every Thursday! Any questions or thoughts, contact us through tyftspodcast@gmail.com or follow us on Instagram, @tyftspodcast. Visit our website at http://www.tyftspodcast.com Special thanks to Brooke Chislock @Soul_Designco for our cover art.
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Shauna and Rosalina have finally had their exchange surgeries! In this episode, the ladies share their feelings and experiences on surgery day. They discuss how they are healing post-surgery, what they found helpful during recovery, and their thoughts and expectations about their final results. While Shauna is loving her new foobs, Rosalina is still getting used to them.
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Resources
https://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/surgery/breast-reconstruction/types
Hybrid reconstruction: https://www.breastcenter.com/breast-reconstruction-procedures/hybrid-breast-reconstruction/
**Important Info About DIEP Flap Reconstruction: In 2019, CMS decided to combine all flap breast reconstruction procedures together under one code and to phase out the unique codes for individual flap procedures by December 31, 2024. Although the coding changes don’t go into effect until next year, some health insurers have already stopped covering DIEP flap surgery.
Transcript
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Hey, Too Young for the Shit listeners, it’s Shauna and we’re on our season two finale.
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Thank you so much for all of your support.
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We need your feedback though.
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Please take five minutes of your day to complete our end of season two survey.
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Your feedback is important and will allow us to improve future podcast episodes for
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our listeners.
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The survey link is in our show notes.
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Thank you and enjoy the final episode of season two.
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Hi everyone.
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Welcome to season two.
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This is Shauna and this is Rosalina and we’re your hosts for Too Young for the Shit podcast.
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This podcast is not just about boobs, but our journey with cancer.
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We are young millennials open about giving you our raw and unfiltered look into our lives.
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We are in no way medical professionals, nor are we offering medical advice.
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Any medical references are cited directly from public websites or form our personal
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diagnosis.
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Some topics and stories may be triggering to those who are fighting, have fought or
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have loved someone with cancer.
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Hey everyone, it’s Rosalina.
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And this is Shauna.
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Welcome back to the Too Young for the Shit podcast.
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This is our season finale, the last episode that we’ll be recording for season two.
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Super exciting.
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I feel like we’ve been working on season two for the past six months.
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Yes, it has been that long.
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It’s been six months.
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We did give ourselves some time.
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We had finished treatment and just kind of I think needed a breather and then wanted
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to plan.
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We both had things going on and I’m kind of happy it ended up this way because then we
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were able to cover our surgeries and now our recovery.
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So it did end up working out, but it was a long six months.
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Yeah.
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Hopefully you’re not sick of me, Shauna.
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I hope you’re not sick of me.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it’s also crazy to think like, you know, it was like this time last year that
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we started recording like season one.
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Yes.
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It’s been like a year.
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Happy anniversary.
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Yes.
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Happy anniversary to you too.
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To the birth of this podcast, actually.
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Shauna, let’s get into the day before or the day of your surgery.
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Like how were you feeling?
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I was so excited.
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I wasn’t nervous.
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I was like, I don’t think I’ve ever been like so excited for surgery ever.
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I also like, to be honest, I love anesthesia.
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I love it so much.
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I had an endoscopy today and had got to get put under and I was like pumped for it.
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I just, I don’t know what is wrong with me.
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It’s just like, it’s like the best sleep ever and I don’t sleep well.
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So it’s like, I look forward to it.
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I was just going to say that you probably feel like you are sleeping well or like a
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little bit more when you’re under than on a regular basis.
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Absolutely.
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So yeah, I mean, it was, I felt like prepared.
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I felt just kind of like ready to get it over with.
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Like I just wanted the expanders out.
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I think I just wanted the box, the last surgery box checked off too.
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Like I, you know, I had posted on Instagram, like this is the last box I needed checked
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off of my reconstruction journey.
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And not to say like, you know, there’s going to be a revision surgery in my future, but
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just like having my implants in for me was just like the end, the end of the road.
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It’s something I look forward to for over a year.
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So I went in like super prepared, ready to go.
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I felt confident with my plastic surgeon.
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You know, everyone in the support groups also say like, it just like instantly feels better
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when you’re done, like, you know, when you get your expanders out and you have your implants
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in.
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I was like looking forward to the end of that.
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I mean, my expander was so overly filled and so just like tight and you know, on my radiated
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side and just like, I was ready to get that thing out.
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Like, and it’s funny because you do get so used to it.
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I didn’t realize how like uncomfortable that was.
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I think I was just so used to it that it was just normal.
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But like when it came out, I was like, oh my God, it was like instant relief.
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I also got used to my expander as well.
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I mean, you had that thing on for like a year ago.
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Yeah, mine was a year and two months.
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Like I went in, in a really like good mood.
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I was like for surgery of the day.
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So I think like, I don’t know how people do like surgery and then have it in the afternoon
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and have to think about it from the moment you wake up.
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I know.
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And then they’re not ridiculous.
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And then they’re not eating because that’s really hard.
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Like I had this endoscopy today as at 2 30.
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I didn’t get to eat something until 4 p.m. today.
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And I was, I was like, I woke up, I was like Oreos and apple juice.
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Like that was the first thing.
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Yeah, I went in.
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My first thing I think we had to be there at like six.
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I think I was like in surgery by 730.
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Again, had to walk myself into my own operating room because NYU just like let’s fucking do
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it like will make you hard.
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Like I find that to be weird.
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Put yourself on your own table.
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You know, it’s like, I don’t know.
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It’s like, I guess I don’t own my own weird way of like being in control, too.
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I’m fine with it.
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So I like the table.
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And then of course, I am like, I tell your story.
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I’m like getting hooked up.
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I’m like into the end of physiology.
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And I’m like, so I have a friend in L.A. who got who got had her surgery at UCLA and they
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gave her essential oils before her surgery.
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And I’m like telling them the story.
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And I’m like, and here I am having to walk myself on like into my own operating room,
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putting myself on the table.
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I here’s my essential oils.
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And again, like my operating room was like laughing.
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And like they also the same thing.
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They’re like, yeah, that’s like such a California thing.
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Like they were even like, yeah, no, we don’t do that here in New York.
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So it was just like really funny.
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And then that’s like kind of the last thing I remember is like all of us laughing and
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like being ready.
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I woke up.
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I don’t think that I was in recovery that long.
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And Matt was able to just like get me in the car and like we got home.
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And I remember getting in the car and being like, they are so small.
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Like I lost it.
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I had like a meltdown on the way home because I was able to like look at my chest through
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my bra.
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And I was like, this is like not the size that I thought it was going to be like losing
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it.
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Right.
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And meanwhile, like I am also swollen too.
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So in my head, I am like, this is how much smaller are these going to get if I’m so swollen.
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So like I am like literally not even home yet from my 15, 20 minute drive from the hospital
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to my apartment.
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And like writing a strongly worded email via my chart about like how unhappy I already am.
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And I was like, stop, like go home.
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I’m going to give it a few days.
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I’m just going to like calm down and curse out my plastic surgeon right now.
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So I went home and I was like just super groggy, kind of like similar how I am today.
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Like I just came home and took a nap.
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And I think I was home by like one or so and just kind of slept on and off all day.
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And I’m not a back sleeper.
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So like that was also difficult like, you know, for the first week.
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But they are also so soft.
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Like I think I texted you and I was like, these are like soft.
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They feel so good and like squishy.
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And like, I think I was just so used to how it over expanded my my one side was that where
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it was like rock hard and how we like could not believe.
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Like I thought that they were going to be like, not saying it’s like a water balloon
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at all, but like I thought it was going to be like a little bit more like solid, I guess.
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But they feel so good and so soft.
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I know when you texted me, I was pretty excited.
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Yeah, to be honest, like that text helped me understand that the process that was about
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to go through is going to be a positive thing for me as well.
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So yeah, definitely.
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I love that you said that text.
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I honestly like I was like thrilled on how they felt like I’m still thrilled on like
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how they feel like I saw my plastic surgeon a week later.
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And they were like really thrilled on like what my results were.
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And like the swelling had gone down and like they definitely looked better than day one.
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I also like had to remember like my skin was being stretched as well.
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Right.
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So that also made it look smaller from the job.
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And I have under the muscle implants, not over the muscle.
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So like I think they just looked really flat when I was on my way home and I needed like
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some time to settle in and like literally every day they look better.
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Like they do.
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I still wish that I was able to go up a size, but like honestly, my plastic surgeon was
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like truly right where I would need a flap surgery in order to go bigger.
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Like my radiated side is about as stretched as it can go.
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She’s like come back in two weeks from after my one week appointment.
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So I went last week and saw them and they’re still like super thrilled with the results.
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But I did mention like my non-cancer side is like a little bit more droopy than my radiated
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side, my cancer side.
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That is because of the skin being as tight as it is.
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So she had mentioned like, you know, that can be fixed with some fat grafting.
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So in my head, I’m like, okay, like I kind of knew that there was there’s going to be
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a revision down the line, but this is a really, really good start.
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She got the symmetry down like perfect.
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That’s good.
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Like they’re like so perfectly symmetrical.
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It’s just my cancer side is just more perkier than the other side.
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So that’s where like the fat grafting will come in.
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I was like thinking like if I did want to go bigger, I can go bigger on my non-radiated
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side.
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I really don’t want to do a flap surgery like at all, but like I’m also at the same time
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like gonna get some second opinions about the same size as I was pre cancer.
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So when I had gone to my three week appointment, she had said like a lot of aqua for on my
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incision.
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You know, she’s like, it’s just very red on my incision.
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She like took a look and she was like, your incision is fully healed.
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She’s like, but so that’s obviously just your radiated skin.
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That’s that’s red.
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And she just said I have to go back next week just to kind of check in.
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I think she just wants to check on my incision, but my incision on my cancer side.
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But other than that, she’s like, they’re really happy with the how I’ve been healing and no
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infections or anything like that.
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Yeah, that’s what you cope for, right?
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Like not to have any issues.
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You and I had spoke yesterday and I had said like, honestly, the most pain that I’ve been
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having is my cancer side where the drains were from my mastectomy and from my lymph
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node removal surgery.
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My plastic surgeon wasn’t able to go in and like clear out that scar tissue because she
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didn’t want to make the pocket too big to where my implant would move.
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And I would have like a big space in between both of my implants.
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Like I said, with the flap, like I don’t want drains again.
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And I also I’m just like, especially now seeing how my skin has reacted to the implant.
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I’m actually scared to have a flap surgery and then just like have my skin not be thrilled
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and then have an infection and just like don’t want to mess with something that’s like not
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giving you issues right now.
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I just don’t want like another big recovery and I don’t want like another like where I
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have to take like major time off.
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Part of me is just like be happy and like maybe let your your radiated side heal for
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a couple years and then revisit it down the line.
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And I don’t know, I’m going back and forth.
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But I feel like right now kind of do want that fat crafting like as soon as I possibly
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can just so that they are like a little bit more the same, you know, up top.
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Like she nailed the symmetry like it’s great.
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I just my non cancer side just like needs a little like it just needs some perkyness
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on top, right?
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Yeah.
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Just like to be a little bit fuller and grant.
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Yeah, I might be able to find a bra that just would sit a little bit to that where I get
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that like projection that I want.
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Right.
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But you know, I’m still in a surgical bras of right now compression bra when the time
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comes and like, you know, like the cellings like a little bit more down and things like
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that.
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But I’m like, I’m going to try again, like try bras and like maybe it won’t bother me.
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Who knows?
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Just for now, just like trying to like just be grateful.
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And you know, I really want to enjoy my summer.
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I really want to swim.
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Like I said, I don’t have to worry about my hair this summer.
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And staying cool and staying out of I mean, I do have to stay out of the sun like, you
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know, I need to protect my skin in general, especially my radiated skin.
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But you know, like I want to be able to go swim.
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Yeah, at the beach, like I want to be able to like jump in a pool like I want to be able
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to just kind of like have the freedom to enjoy my summer and not be restricted.
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I had two different size expanders last year.
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I didn’t even feel comfortable being in a bathing suit in front of anybody.
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So I know now that it’s symmetric, you feel a little bit better wearing a bathing suit.
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Exactly.
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And then also during surgery, I was able to get my scar revision for my port scar because
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it just never healed correctly because of like a stitch that never dissolved and then
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kind of got infected and just like it just looked angry.
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And like I was actually more self conscious about that than like my lopsided boobs, you
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know, in the expanders.
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So my plastic surgeon like revised it and it looks beautiful.
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I have scar sheets on it now like the silicone scar strips.
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I’m taking like really good care of it.
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And I’m hoping that you know, it just, you know, as time goes, like just fades really
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nicely.
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Overall, I am happy.
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I think it’s a really great start.
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I’m really happy that, you know, I did not have any infections.
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I didn’t have any like setbacks as of now.
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With the fat graphing though, did you already set that timeline or did you already speak
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to your plastic surgeon about doing that small operation?
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I’m going next week and I think they’re going to tell me I have to wait at least three months
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for things to settle.
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And so that would bring me to what?
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September timeline.
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Who knows?
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I have a lot of things coming up in the fall, like I have a wedding the beginning of October.
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I have a Vegas trip the end of October.
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So I might even.
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Yeah.
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So I might even just try to save it maybe even for like, I can get it done maybe around
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Christmas time and then have that Christmas time off to just kind of recover.
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For now, just going to let my body heal.
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We had recommended Juven, which is like a wound healing powder, and I talked to my plastic
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surgeon about it and she said, yeah, like some people do it.
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Some people, you know, like we don’t like not recommended.
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It has really good vitamins.
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We just tell you to like wait and start doing it after surgery till after surgery.
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So you know, you could do it twice a day.
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I did it.
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I had like had it in a protein shake like once a day and then I took a supplement called
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wound bite like VIT just to kind of like help my body has a really hard time like dissolving
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sutures.
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I wish I knew this actually after I’m second, how much like our body needs to recover like
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after surgery, after treatment, after anything like I was not aware of this.
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So I really made it a point to make sure that I was getting like enough protein during the
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day in whatever form I could possibly get it.
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And I think it did help.
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Like I instead of going back to work two weeks later, like crazy person, they told me not
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to lift anything for six weeks and I was lifting a child at two weeks.
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I know that’s that’s very bold of you.
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I overdid it.
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But I also like I think it did help my healing process.
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I spent two weeks just like at home, like really not doing much and really trying to
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like let my body rest and heal and doing what I could to just like take care of myself.
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So I think it really did help.
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So but obviously for anybody that like is looking for a supplement like that, obviously
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check with your, you know, surgeons and doctors and things like that.
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I did.
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I did ask and they gave me the idea to do it.
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I think for me, like with my process, the week before my surgery, I tried to exercise
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as much as I could.
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I think maybe I just did it like three times in a week before my surgery day.
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And I was just trying to get my body just prepared for the big day and then also eating
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well.
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What surprises me and maybe this is just due to the doctors, maybe they don’t want to mention
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to their patients on what they should eat and like what they should do before surgery.
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But obviously like they mentioned, you know, you can’t take any supplements two weeks before
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and like make sure you’re not smoking and
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I’d say like, no, like what NSAIDs like you can’t take like ibuprofen, you can’t take
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naproxen or anything like that.
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They have like a whole list, like no vitamin E, I think for two weeks.
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Yes, yes, exactly.
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That’s like the cadence and that could definitely affect your surgery and how you’re feeling.
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But I guess I’m surprised that they don’t put out like wishlist, I guess, or optional
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things that you can do in order to prepare your body.
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Because I was reading online and I was like wondering, okay, do people do anything pre-surgery?
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And yes, like there are things that you can do to pump up your body, make sure that it’s
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well nourished with like, heal well, I guess, after your surgery.
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So trying to make sure that I was eating clean for the past like two weeks before surgery
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and also exercise as much as I could.
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What was your like headspace going into it?
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You know, we had kind of discussed it in our pre-surgery episode, but you were kind of
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struggling.
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After I cried for the past like three to four weeks, I guess I was trying to keep myself
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in a different headspace, meaning like I was trying to keep myself less anxious.
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I was doing a lot of self-care and I was trying to switch my mindset of like, you did all
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the possible things that you could have done, the research, making sure that like the procedure
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that you’re doing will be right for you, the type of implants and all those things.
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I was just telling myself I did the best that I could and I tried to make sure that I chose
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the right path for myself.
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So that’s what put me in a different mindset and where I was no longer nervous, I was just
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ready to get that over with.
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That meaning the surgery.
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You know how the hospital calls you like a few days before to make sure like that you
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didn’t take any of the supplements and making sure that you know where you’re going for
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your surgery date.
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And so I actually thought my hospital was in Santa Monica, where I had my surgery last
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year, but actually it was in Westwood.
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I’m so glad that they called me and said it was going to be in Westwood, which is essentially-
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Imagine you get there, show up to the world.
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I have a funny story actually, because it wasn’t only me that thought this and I’m going
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to get through that.
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So Westwood is actually where my plastic surgeon is based out of, so that made sense.
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The day of the surgery, Brian and I went to the hospital and we sat in the sitting room
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together for about 15 minutes until they called me in and they actually separated us really
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quickly.
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Also Brian never came back.
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A year ago with my surgery, Brian was able to go into my room and talk to me at least
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and be with me.
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I don’t know what happened.
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They just didn’t let him in or I guess he didn’t think he could go in.
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I don’t know what was the deal.
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So I was by myself.
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Matt got to be with me for my surgery up until I walked in and I got to be with me in recovery.
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Yeah, see?
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No, that wasn’t the case.
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So yeah, so Brian didn’t show up.
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And then also it was so funny.
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So I walk in and I was like, okay, let’s get this shit over with, the guy walks me to my
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little room and he gave me a bag and was telling me, oh, these are where your clothes would
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be at.
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And it’s so funny.
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I didn’t see anywhere where he was going to mark that this was the property of Rosalina
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Folleve.
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So there was a whiteboard in my room.
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And so I went towards the whiteboard, grabbed the marker and start writing my name in front
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of him.
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And he was like, ma’am, we have stickers for you.
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And then he showed me my printed name and my date of birth in my head.
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I was like, this guy doesn’t even have anything.
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Well, also I had my wallet and everything.
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I was trying to make sure no one was going to steal my stuff.
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Yeah.
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They have a tag at the NYU that they give you these awesome bags.
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They’re not even plastic.
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They’re like fabric bags, I guess.
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Yeah, they’re really kind of plastic.
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I’ve taken three of them home with me.
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Oh, nice.
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I feel like NYU is a little bit better than what I’ve experienced.
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So I thought that was super funny.
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And then basically they told me to take everything out and undress and put the gown on or whatever.
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And so I sat on the bed.
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And you know how there’s people that are coming to your room asking you questions, asking
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you what type of surgery you’re doing.
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And there is an anesthesiologist that came over and she was super nice.
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I guess I didn’t have the courage to ask her if I was going to do the essential oils.
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I immediately thought that that was going to be the process.
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So I didn’t even ask.
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No, I did not get any essential oils, which I was so bummed about.
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I don’t know if I texted you, Shana, that day.
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Yeah, you said you didn’t get them.
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I didn’t get any essential oils.
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Morale must have been really terrible in that room.
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Not a good start.
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No, not a good start at all.
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So I was like, okay, fuck.
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So anyway, her partner, who’s the other anesthesiologist came over and she was nice, but I didn’t like
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how she approached this.
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She was like, hi there.
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I know that you’re a veteran in this.
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And then in my head I was like, a veteran?
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I don’t want to be a veteran in this process.
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So I was like, I know what she was trying to do, trying to do small talk, but I was
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just seeing right through the bullshit or what I thought it was.
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She told me to put my mask down and then to put my tongue out.
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And then I was wondering what the fuck is she trying to do?
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And then she was asking me to open my mouth even wider and she was trying to look for
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any cracks in my teeth.
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I guess that they take that into consideration when I’m under.
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I don’t know if that happened to you, Shauna, if they asked you to open your mouth.
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It didn’t happen to me.
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Okay.
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Well, yeah.
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I had like today in my endoscopy had to open my mouth because they put a camera down it,
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but they did not ask me to open my mouth.
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Yeah.
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It was-
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Neither time.
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I mean, and that, it didn’t happen to me last year when I had my mastectomy surgery.
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So then my plastic surgeon comes and she’s like out of breath and she’s like, I took
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the stairs because Westwood, if anyone knows Westwood.
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So the elevators in Westwood are such a pain, especially when it is rush hour.
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So rush hour is like the morning and the afternoon.
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So she took the stairs, which I thought was hilarious.
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She came up to me and she was just like drawing on my skin.
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And then she was asking me, oh, like who is here with you today or like who do I need
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to call like after we’re done with your surgery is like, oh, you know, the same guy that was
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with you last year.
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And she’s like, oh, Brian.
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I was like, yeah.
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And then it was so funny.
436
00:25:34,640 –> 00:25:37,760
Like we both just laughed.
437
00:25:37,760 –> 00:25:39,360
I said he never left.
438
00:25:39,360 –> 00:25:42,560
Like it’s the same guy that never left my side.
439
00:25:42,560 –> 00:25:45,320
So I thought that was hilarious.
440
00:25:45,320 –> 00:25:48,480
When Matt and I checked in, they were like, who’s going to be picking you up?
441
00:25:48,480 –> 00:25:51,320
Like we’ll send them text alerts or whatever.
442
00:25:51,320 –> 00:25:56,240
And that’s, you know, Matt’s like giving them the phone number and going to walk away.
443
00:25:56,240 –> 00:25:59,720
And he’s like, when I get that text, I’m just going to be like, sorry, wrong number.
444
00:25:59,720 –> 00:26:05,120
Like as a joke, you know, and I was kind of like, yeah, you can leave me here.
445
00:26:05,120 –> 00:26:06,120
I love this hospital.
446
00:26:06,120 –> 00:26:08,080
I’ll stay here forever.
447
00:26:08,080 –> 00:26:14,520
Then my breast surgeon comes and she’s like relaxed, but she comes over and she’s like,
448
00:26:14,520 –> 00:26:17,120
oh, I thought you were late.
449
00:26:17,120 –> 00:26:18,720
And then I was like, what do you mean?
450
00:26:18,720 –> 00:26:20,720
And she’s like, I was in Santa Monica.
451
00:26:20,720 –> 00:26:27,560
I was in the Santa Monica location and I was wondering where you were.
452
00:26:27,560 –> 00:26:31,520
Mondays are really not her surgery days.
453
00:26:31,520 –> 00:26:34,660
She only was doing this for me.
454
00:26:34,660 –> 00:26:39,520
And usually she’s at the Santa Monica location and not Westwood.
455
00:26:39,520 –> 00:26:42,720
She went to the wrong hospital.
456
00:26:42,720 –> 00:26:46,480
Actually, it is so funny.
457
00:26:46,480 –> 00:26:54,400
I always wondered that because, and I don’t know about your doctors, but like my doctors,
458
00:26:54,400 –> 00:26:59,240
they are at like three different locations in a week.
459
00:26:59,240 –> 00:27:03,640
Like they’re at the Santa Monica, they’re at the Beverly Hills or Westwood.
460
00:27:03,640 –> 00:27:07,800
So I’m like, don’t they get confused which days are going to be where?
461
00:27:07,800 –> 00:27:08,800
And then that confirmed.
462
00:27:08,800 –> 00:27:09,800
Yeah.
463
00:27:09,800 –> 00:27:10,800
Oh my God.
464
00:27:10,800 –> 00:27:13,600
So how far is that between Santa Monica and Westwood?
465
00:27:13,600 –> 00:27:15,120
It was like 15 minutes.
466
00:27:15,120 –> 00:27:16,120
Okay.
467
00:27:16,120 –> 00:27:17,120
So it’s super close.
468
00:27:17,120 –> 00:27:18,120
I know.
469
00:27:18,120 –> 00:27:19,120
I had to delay every surgery.
470
00:27:19,120 –> 00:27:20,120
I know.
471
00:27:20,120 –> 00:27:26,240
When I told this story to my mom, my mom, you know what she said?
472
00:27:26,240 –> 00:27:31,200
She was like, oh, well, I hope she didn’t forget how to do the surgery.
473
00:27:31,200 –> 00:27:36,800
And I’m like, oh my God, like, no, I wasn’t even talked about.
474
00:27:36,800 –> 00:27:38,440
I know, I know.
475
00:27:38,440 –> 00:27:42,040
And then they ask you to like for surgery, like, well, they say like, what are you here
476
00:27:42,040 –> 00:27:43,040
for?
477
00:27:43,040 –> 00:27:46,900
Like they double check to to make sure like the, you know, they know, like they’re not
478
00:27:46,900 –> 00:27:48,760
wheeling you into a surgery.
479
00:27:48,760 –> 00:27:50,360
You don’t get what you came in for.
480
00:27:50,360 –> 00:27:51,360
Yeah.
481
00:27:51,360 –> 00:27:56,000
But then she came to me because we had a conversation explained again, like what she was going to
482
00:27:56,000 –> 00:27:57,000
do.
483
00:27:57,000 –> 00:27:58,000
Yeah.
484
00:27:58,000 –> 00:27:59,000
Yeah.
485
00:27:59,000 –> 00:28:02,600
So I was like, I’m going to go under and then when I woke up, I was actually in pain.
486
00:28:02,600 –> 00:28:05,960
They gave me Oxy right off the bat.
487
00:28:05,960 –> 00:28:10,400
The thing that I thought was so weird and I told you this is Shauna because I was pretty
488
00:28:10,400 –> 00:28:11,400
bad.
489
00:28:11,400 –> 00:28:14,480
They were trying to rush me.
490
00:28:14,480 –> 00:28:18,240
I woke up and then she’s like, how are you feeling?
491
00:28:18,240 –> 00:28:19,240
Blah, blah, blah, whatever.
492
00:28:19,240 –> 00:28:20,440
And then I’m like, oh, I’m in pain.
493
00:28:20,440 –> 00:28:25,040
Then she gave me the Oxy and then she’s like, oh, do you want anything to drink or eat?
494
00:28:25,040 –> 00:28:26,480
And then I’m like, yeah, sure.
495
00:28:26,480 –> 00:28:28,820
Which I never eat at the hospital.
496
00:28:28,820 –> 00:28:34,240
But I would gladly drink water or apple juice or whatever they have.
497
00:28:34,240 –> 00:28:38,520
After I was done, which was like two minutes, she’s like, okay, let’s put your clothes on.
498
00:28:38,520 –> 00:28:39,520
And I’m like, oh my God.
499
00:28:39,520 –> 00:28:42,600
In my head, I was like, holy shit.
500
00:28:42,600 –> 00:28:43,600
Yeah.
501
00:28:43,600 –> 00:28:47,720
Where was the surgery or mastectomy when you were like, get me the fuck out of here?
502
00:28:47,720 –> 00:28:48,720
Where was this thing?
503
00:28:48,720 –> 00:28:49,720
I know.
504
00:28:49,720 –> 00:28:50,720
I know.
505
00:28:50,720 –> 00:28:53,120
I didn’t want to leave in 30 minutes.
506
00:28:53,120 –> 00:28:54,380
Give me an hour.
507
00:28:54,380 –> 00:28:56,120
I need to still process.
508
00:28:56,120 –> 00:28:57,120
You want in a moment.
509
00:28:57,120 –> 00:28:58,120
Yeah.
510
00:28:58,120 –> 00:28:59,120
I’m like an anesthesiologist.
511
00:28:59,120 –> 00:29:03,520
I’m literally covering my face because she told me this story already.
512
00:29:03,520 –> 00:29:06,940
She put the needle in my hand.
513
00:29:06,940 –> 00:29:09,800
So when I was putting my clothes on, there was nothing attached.
514
00:29:09,800 –> 00:29:13,560
And then I was a little mad that she told me to put my clothes on right away.
515
00:29:13,560 –> 00:29:17,720
And I was like, okay, this bitch is not going to take my IV out.
516
00:29:17,720 –> 00:29:18,720
So I’m going to take it out.
517
00:29:18,720 –> 00:29:23,520
She told me this and I was like, oh my God.
518
00:29:23,520 –> 00:29:24,520
Oh my God.
519
00:29:24,520 –> 00:29:25,520
I know.
520
00:29:25,520 –> 00:29:28,320
I know that she put herself like in your hand.
521
00:29:28,320 –> 00:29:30,880
I wouldn’t even let them put one in my hand.
522
00:29:30,880 –> 00:29:32,320
I don’t let them.
523
00:29:32,320 –> 00:29:34,240
I literally got blood taken last week.
524
00:29:34,240 –> 00:29:36,640
They took it out of my wrist because they couldn’t find a vein.
525
00:29:36,640 –> 00:29:39,160
My wrist right here on my right.
526
00:29:39,160 –> 00:29:41,600
I won’t let them use my hand.
527
00:29:41,600 –> 00:29:43,480
And you went and took your own out.
528
00:29:43,480 –> 00:29:47,520
And I am wanting to crawl out of my own skin right now thinking about it.
529
00:29:47,520 –> 00:29:48,520
It wasn’t bad.
530
00:29:48,520 –> 00:29:49,520
You’re a lunatic.
531
00:29:49,520 –> 00:29:50,520
It was bad.
532
00:29:50,520 –> 00:29:51,520
I know.
533
00:29:51,520 –> 00:29:52,520
I know.
534
00:29:52,520 –> 00:29:54,520
I know that I am.
535
00:29:54,520 –> 00:29:55,520
Yeah.
536
00:29:55,520 –> 00:29:58,360
So then, you know, when I took it out, obviously I was bleeding a little bit.
537
00:29:58,360 –> 00:30:00,880
There was a nurse who came by.
538
00:30:00,880 –> 00:30:02,360
He was like, oh, is everything all right?
539
00:30:02,360 –> 00:30:05,000
I was like, can I get a band-aid?
540
00:30:05,000 –> 00:30:08,280
Because I like to take a tissue and then put it on my hand.
541
00:30:08,280 –> 00:30:12,640
And the other nurse came by and she’s like, oh, you’re not supposed to take your IV out.
542
00:30:12,640 –> 00:30:15,200
Like the doctor is supposed to see you, blah, blah, blah.
543
00:30:15,200 –> 00:30:18,320
Which the doctor never did, first of all.
544
00:30:18,320 –> 00:30:21,000
So I don’t know what the hell she was talking about.
545
00:30:21,000 –> 00:30:25,600
And then she was telling me that she was trying to call Brian to come.
546
00:30:25,600 –> 00:30:29,360
But then she was like, can you call him and tell him he needs to be here?
547
00:30:29,360 –> 00:30:32,560
Like in my head, I was like, what is going on?
548
00:30:32,560 –> 00:30:35,720
Why do they want to kick me out so badly?
549
00:30:35,720 –> 00:30:39,160
So I was very confused.
550
00:30:39,160 –> 00:30:42,000
And did you even have your phone at that point?
551
00:30:42,000 –> 00:30:43,000
They checked your stuff.
552
00:30:43,000 –> 00:30:44,760
Like you can’t bring your phone into surgery.
553
00:30:44,760 –> 00:30:45,760
I didn’t even have my phone.
554
00:30:45,760 –> 00:30:47,760
Well, when I woke up is what I meant.
555
00:30:47,760 –> 00:30:51,160
Like when I woke up, they already had my bag.
556
00:30:51,160 –> 00:30:52,160
Oh, okay.
557
00:30:52,160 –> 00:30:53,160
Yeah.
558
00:30:53,160 –> 00:30:54,160
I didn’t have my bag.
559
00:30:54,160 –> 00:30:55,160
Yeah.
560
00:30:55,160 –> 00:30:56,160
No, they made sure.
561
00:30:56,160 –> 00:30:57,160
Did Brian answer the phone?
562
00:30:57,160 –> 00:30:58,160
He did.
563
00:30:58,160 –> 00:31:02,400
He did answer the phone and he was trying to get there.
564
00:31:02,400 –> 00:31:06,360
Brian was able to be there in like the next 10 minutes.
565
00:31:06,360 –> 00:31:09,160
And so they wheeled me all the way downstairs.
566
00:31:09,160 –> 00:31:15,200
Brian was like, I thought they were calling me because you wanted to leave like last time.
567
00:31:15,200 –> 00:31:17,160
And I was like, no.
568
00:31:17,160 –> 00:31:20,600
They were just trying to rush me out of the hospital.
569
00:31:20,600 –> 00:31:22,720
That’s what they’re trying to do.
570
00:31:22,720 –> 00:31:27,800
But then like when I saw everyone else in their room, like I saw like people having
571
00:31:27,800 –> 00:31:31,720
visitors, I had surgery.
572
00:31:31,720 –> 00:31:34,040
It doesn’t matter what type of surgery I had.
573
00:31:34,040 –> 00:31:39,580
Like I should be able to stay until I feel better.
574
00:31:39,580 –> 00:31:43,680
So I thought that was so bizarre and not a great experience.
575
00:31:43,680 –> 00:31:47,800
So I don’t really like that Westwood Hospital anymore.
576
00:31:47,800 –> 00:31:52,720
I’m not upset anymore, but I was in that week.
577
00:31:52,720 –> 00:31:55,600
So you never saw your plastic surgeon.
578
00:31:55,600 –> 00:31:57,720
So then when did you have your post-op?
579
00:31:57,720 –> 00:32:00,200
I had it for like a week after.
580
00:32:00,200 –> 00:32:01,200
Here was the thing.
581
00:32:01,200 –> 00:32:09,560
I was supposed to see both Dr. Baker, my breast surgeon for the pathology report because remember
582
00:32:09,560 –> 00:32:16,160
in the last episode, she was taking that skin where the positive margin was.
583
00:32:16,160 –> 00:32:19,000
You didn’t get a clean margin for surgery.
584
00:32:19,000 –> 00:32:25,440
We were supposed to have the pathology report by then, but the pathology department was
585
00:32:25,440 –> 00:32:29,800
just from what Dr. Baker told me because she called me, they were like backed up.
586
00:32:29,800 –> 00:32:32,320
Like they, I was like, I never heard this before.
587
00:32:32,320 –> 00:32:35,160
Like a pathology department like being backed up.
588
00:32:35,160 –> 00:32:36,160
Yeah.
589
00:32:36,160 –> 00:32:37,160
Like what does that even mean?
590
00:32:37,160 –> 00:32:38,160
Yeah.
591
00:32:38,160 –> 00:32:41,440
Does that mean that a lot of more people are getting tested?
592
00:32:41,440 –> 00:32:46,360
I don’t know because I just tried to make an appointment for like other, another specialist
593
00:32:46,360 –> 00:32:51,800
for something unrelated, but everyone’s booked out until like October.
594
00:32:51,800 –> 00:32:53,320
I don’t know what’s going on.
595
00:32:53,320 –> 00:32:56,640
I don’t know if like maybe some doctors are also just like taking time off between the
596
00:32:56,640 –> 00:33:01,740
pandemic and like having to catch up from the pandemic that this is like now their time
597
00:33:01,740 –> 00:33:06,780
to be able to like, I don’t know, like back on certain things or like, or if people are
598
00:33:06,780 –> 00:33:10,840
still just playing catch up from the pandemic and just like finally getting in to see all
599
00:33:10,840 –> 00:33:16,640
these doctors and like, who knows, you know, all the things that, you know, I don’t know,
600
00:33:16,640 –> 00:33:19,200
like just people have been put up like putting off.
601
00:33:19,200 –> 00:33:20,200
Yeah.
602
00:33:20,200 –> 00:33:22,040
I’m not sure what’s going on.
603
00:33:22,040 –> 00:33:28,680
So I wasn’t able to see Dr. Baker the week after, but I was able to see Dr. Slack.
604
00:33:28,680 –> 00:33:34,840
And to be honest, when I saw her, I felt that the appointment was really short.
605
00:33:34,840 –> 00:33:38,680
Like she only saw me for like 15 minutes.
606
00:33:38,680 –> 00:33:40,720
My appointment was really short too.
607
00:33:40,720 –> 00:33:42,520
How was the recovery for the first week?
608
00:33:42,520 –> 00:33:46,000
Like were you in a lot of pain, discomfort?
609
00:33:46,000 –> 00:33:48,080
Did you get to see what they looked like?
610
00:33:48,080 –> 00:33:51,680
Were you raging like I was the second I left the hospital?
611
00:33:51,680 –> 00:33:53,480
Like what were you?
612
00:33:53,480 –> 00:33:55,040
Yeah, no.
613
00:33:55,040 –> 00:33:56,040
Yeah.
614
00:33:56,040 –> 00:34:06,920
So I was in pain for about like three days and the pain was more on my right side.
615
00:34:06,920 –> 00:34:14,000
So I had a breast augmentation on the right and they put the smallest implant in there.
616
00:34:14,000 –> 00:34:16,540
It was just a very weird feeling.
617
00:34:16,540 –> 00:34:20,260
I was really swollen on that side.
618
00:34:20,260 –> 00:34:21,740
And it was over the muscle.
619
00:34:21,740 –> 00:34:23,060
It was under the muscle.
620
00:34:23,060 –> 00:34:24,680
So that one is under the muscle.
621
00:34:24,680 –> 00:34:25,680
Okay.
622
00:34:25,680 –> 00:34:28,160
And my left side is over the muscle.
623
00:34:28,160 –> 00:34:29,160
Okay.
624
00:34:29,160 –> 00:34:30,160
Got it.
625
00:34:30,160 –> 00:34:33,480
When I first saw them, they looked symmetrical.
626
00:34:33,480 –> 00:34:35,360
I was very surprised.
627
00:34:35,360 –> 00:34:39,120
And then that confirmed my worry.
628
00:34:39,120 –> 00:34:46,560
Over the past few months and weeks, I was concerned about doing anything to my right
629
00:34:46,560 –> 00:34:51,440
side and I was close to not wanting to do anything.
630
00:34:51,440 –> 00:34:55,360
But my plastic surgeon told me like, if you don’t do anything on the right side, it’s
631
00:34:55,360 –> 00:34:58,080
going to be asymmetrical.
632
00:34:58,080 –> 00:35:06,520
When I saw my boobs for the first time post surgery, I was like, damn, she is right.
633
00:35:06,520 –> 00:35:13,800
So I’m glad that I went to the route of doing something to the right side, even if it was
634
00:35:13,800 –> 00:35:16,720
a small implant.
635
00:35:16,720 –> 00:35:22,760
Brian’s family had a birthday dinner and I was hesitant to go.
636
00:35:22,760 –> 00:35:30,500
Like I wasn’t sure how I felt and then also like only his parents knows about my surgery,
637
00:35:30,500 –> 00:35:33,160
but like his cousins and his aunt and uncle did it.
638
00:35:33,160 –> 00:35:37,560
So my first thought was like, I can’t hug people.
639
00:35:37,560 –> 00:35:39,280
That was the big thing for me.
640
00:35:39,280 –> 00:35:40,920
What am I supposed to do?
641
00:35:40,920 –> 00:35:41,920
Yeah.
642
00:35:41,920 –> 00:35:42,920
Yeah.
643
00:35:42,920 –> 00:35:43,920
Yeah.
644
00:35:43,920 –> 00:35:48,520
We had gone to like a first birthday to see like a lot of our friends that we haven’t
645
00:35:48,520 –> 00:35:50,220
seen in like a while.
646
00:35:50,220 –> 00:35:55,220
And I felt like I had to do that weird like where you stick your butt out and like give
647
00:35:55,220 –> 00:35:57,840
somebody like a hug from afar.
648
00:35:57,840 –> 00:36:02,760
I was just going to say, yes, I did the same exact thing.
649
00:36:02,760 –> 00:36:04,500
A lot of that.
650
00:36:04,500 –> 00:36:08,640
And then granted that was like almost closer to like the two week mark and I was still
651
00:36:08,640 –> 00:36:09,640
scared.
652
00:36:09,640 –> 00:36:12,360
Oh, it was just a few days.
653
00:36:12,360 –> 00:36:13,360
Yeah.
654
00:36:13,360 –> 00:36:18,880
I went and his cousins drove us to the restaurant.
655
00:36:18,880 –> 00:36:27,520
There was this one moment where like he took a really sharp turn and oh my God, my right
656
00:36:27,520 –> 00:36:33,280
side hurt so bad that it was like, holy fuck.
657
00:36:33,280 –> 00:36:38,640
I feel like I can’t even breathe essentially, which I mean I could.
658
00:36:38,640 –> 00:36:44,560
I felt so stiff that I didn’t want to move much because then I felt like it was going
659
00:36:44,560 –> 00:36:45,840
to hurt even more.
660
00:36:45,840 –> 00:36:49,760
I was uncomfortable at the restaurant for the whole night.
661
00:36:49,760 –> 00:36:50,760
Yeah.
662
00:36:50,760 –> 00:36:55,200
Then I got worried because I was like, fuck, like this right side is giving me a little
663
00:36:55,200 –> 00:36:57,160
problems here.
664
00:36:57,160 –> 00:37:02,280
I didn’t want anything to happen, you know, and also the swelling to like, like when I
665
00:37:02,280 –> 00:37:06,640
did too much, like how many days after did you go to that dinner?
666
00:37:06,640 –> 00:37:09,120
It was like five, five days.
667
00:37:09,120 –> 00:37:10,120
Okay.
668
00:37:10,120 –> 00:37:14,000
Well, I went to a concert three days after surgery because I was like, I don’t care if
669
00:37:14,000 –> 00:37:19,620
I’m dying and bleeding out, like I’m going to see the concert at this venue that I wanted
670
00:37:19,620 –> 00:37:20,620
to go to.
671
00:37:20,620 –> 00:37:21,620
And it was Bon Iver.
672
00:37:21,620 –> 00:37:26,480
So it wasn’t like anything wild, but like I was adamant about going.
673
00:37:26,480 –> 00:37:28,080
Thank God, like the weather was perfect.
674
00:37:28,080 –> 00:37:31,440
So I wasn’t super tense, but like I did too much.
675
00:37:31,440 –> 00:37:35,760
I felt swollen after I felt like I had overdone it.
676
00:37:35,760 –> 00:37:38,240
And I don’t know, like I’m still wearing a pillow.
677
00:37:38,240 –> 00:37:41,680
Like now I’m how many weeks post-op right now?
678
00:37:41,680 –> 00:37:43,000
Almost a month.
679
00:37:43,000 –> 00:37:46,280
And I still like driving with a pillow.
680
00:37:46,280 –> 00:37:47,280
I still have a pillow.
681
00:37:47,280 –> 00:37:50,880
I can’t believe that the seatbelt hurts so bad.
682
00:37:50,880 –> 00:37:51,880
Yeah.
683
00:37:51,880 –> 00:37:57,880
You went to a concert and I also went to a concert, but mine was two weeks after.
684
00:37:57,880 –> 00:38:01,480
And you went to like a dance, like yours, you guys were rave.
685
00:38:01,480 –> 00:38:05,080
But it was actually very calm.
686
00:38:05,080 –> 00:38:06,080
Yeah.
687
00:38:06,080 –> 00:38:10,520
Let me just say, it’s not like people were, it didn’t look calm.
688
00:38:10,520 –> 00:38:11,520
No.
689
00:38:11,520 –> 00:38:12,520
It was.
690
00:38:12,520 –> 00:38:16,120
It really was calmer than what you would have thought.
691
00:38:16,120 –> 00:38:17,840
Like a rave would look like.
692
00:38:17,840 –> 00:38:25,520
So Brian and I were like in the crowd, but we were kind of in a section where not a lot
693
00:38:25,520 –> 00:38:27,600
of people coming through.
694
00:38:27,600 –> 00:38:29,680
So that was my only concern.
695
00:38:29,680 –> 00:38:36,480
Every time I would like cross through to like different people around just to get anywhere,
696
00:38:36,480 –> 00:38:45,040
I would have like my arm across my chest so I could protect the chest as all cops.
697
00:38:45,040 –> 00:38:47,560
We had seats, thank God.
698
00:38:47,560 –> 00:38:49,200
But I was super nervous.
699
00:38:49,200 –> 00:38:50,200
I felt really bad.
700
00:38:50,200 –> 00:38:54,920
Like we walked in and it’s an outdoor like amphitheater that we went to and it’s not
701
00:38:54,920 –> 00:38:59,320
big, but getting into it was a little hectic.
702
00:38:59,320 –> 00:39:00,320
And I felt so bad.
703
00:39:00,320 –> 00:39:03,840
Like Matt had a coworker that was there and he introduced me.
704
00:39:03,840 –> 00:39:08,920
And I’m like, I’m also, I’ve realized as I’ve gotten older, like I love concerts, but I’m
705
00:39:08,920 –> 00:39:10,200
not good in crowds.
706
00:39:10,200 –> 00:39:14,440
Like I get super overwhelmed when there’s like a lot of people around me at one time.
707
00:39:14,440 –> 00:39:15,800
Like once I’m there, I’m fine.
708
00:39:15,800 –> 00:39:19,360
But like getting through large crowds, it’s like a panic for me.
709
00:39:19,360 –> 00:39:23,480
So like not only was like I already panicked, but then like I’m like, if somebody bumps
710
00:39:23,480 –> 00:39:26,360
into me, it’s going to ruin my whole night.
711
00:39:26,360 –> 00:39:27,360
And it’s like, I’m going to be hurt.
712
00:39:27,360 –> 00:39:29,020
I’m going to have to leave.
713
00:39:29,020 –> 00:39:34,040
So I was just super anxious about that.
714
00:39:34,040 –> 00:39:39,080
And then Matt introduced me to his coworker and like, I was so just like, oh my God, I
715
00:39:39,080 –> 00:39:40,240
felt like I was so rude.
716
00:39:40,240 –> 00:39:44,240
Like I said to Matt, like, I feel really like I was kind of rude to this girl.
717
00:39:44,240 –> 00:39:45,240
And like, he’s apologized.
718
00:39:45,240 –> 00:39:50,240
Like I was just like kind of really focused on like getting to where I needed to go without
719
00:39:50,240 –> 00:39:51,240
getting hurt.
720
00:39:51,240 –> 00:39:54,320
And like also getting through this crowd without having a panic attack.
721
00:39:54,320 –> 00:39:58,080
I don’t know how you were like, like, like you didn’t have a seat.
722
00:39:58,080 –> 00:40:01,360
I saw that I was like, oh man.
723
00:40:01,360 –> 00:40:02,360
No.
724
00:40:02,360 –> 00:40:03,360
Yeah.
725
00:40:03,360 –> 00:40:07,960
Like I said, like it wasn’t a rowdy crowd.
726
00:40:07,960 –> 00:40:14,760
So I saw Sophie Tucker, if anyone knows who they are, but it was a really great show.
727
00:40:14,760 –> 00:40:20,800
And I’m so glad I kind of went back to my appointment with my plastic surgeon.
728
00:40:20,800 –> 00:40:25,440
I saw her for about 15 minutes and she was really happy with the results.
729
00:40:25,440 –> 00:40:30,640
I felt like I didn’t have enough time to process everything.
730
00:40:30,640 –> 00:40:34,680
Like even though I spent like maybe like 15 minutes with her, I just felt like it was
731
00:40:34,680 –> 00:40:35,880
i just rushed.
732
00:40:35,880 –> 00:40:39,640
I felt I had questions afterwards.
733
00:40:39,640 –> 00:40:44,680
So what I did was I went into my chart and asked all the questions.
734
00:40:44,680 –> 00:40:49,680
The other thing that happened almost three weeks ago.
735
00:40:49,680 –> 00:40:57,600
So I had sutures on both breasts and it got to the point where it was like getting really
736
00:40:57,600 –> 00:40:58,600
irritated.
737
00:40:58,600 –> 00:40:59,600
And it’s so funny.
738
00:40:59,600 –> 00:41:06,480
I told my boyfriend Brian was like, I feel like I’m back at radiation.
739
00:41:06,480 –> 00:41:12,880
Like the feeling of it being super itchy and irritated and agitated and all those things.
740
00:41:12,880 –> 00:41:16,600
Like I just felt like I’m back at radiation.
741
00:41:16,600 –> 00:41:23,080
Brian took a picture where it was like irritated, which was again on the right side where I
742
00:41:23,080 –> 00:41:27,880
had my incision underneath the breast and it looked red.
743
00:41:27,880 –> 00:41:28,880
It looked angry.
744
00:41:28,880 –> 00:41:29,880
So I took a picture.
745
00:41:29,880 –> 00:41:34,360
I sent it to my plastic surgeon and I’m so glad that she responded right away.
746
00:41:34,360 –> 00:41:36,280
She said, yeah, let’s bring you in.
747
00:41:36,280 –> 00:41:39,560
It seems like we just need to cut those things out.
748
00:41:39,560 –> 00:41:40,920
I knew you’d be fine.
749
00:41:40,920 –> 00:41:49,200
Two days after I saw her she was able to cut those out and now I feel so much better.
750
00:41:49,200 –> 00:41:51,000
Let me tell you.
751
00:41:51,000 –> 00:41:56,400
Just overall like with how my breasts are looking, they look great.
752
00:41:56,400 –> 00:42:02,480
The one thing I would say that bothered me just a little bit is, you know, I have one
753
00:42:02,480 –> 00:42:05,960
nipple on my right side and then no nipple on the left.
754
00:42:05,960 –> 00:42:14,200
And so with the right side, like you can tell that it’s a little bit out because obviously
755
00:42:14,200 –> 00:42:16,200
I had a nipple on the right side.
756
00:42:16,200 –> 00:42:19,440
So the left side, it just looks a little bit flatter.
757
00:42:19,440 –> 00:42:24,000
That’s my only thing that I’m kind of iffy about.
758
00:42:24,000 –> 00:42:29,160
But again, it’s not to the point where I’m not happy about it.
759
00:42:29,160 –> 00:42:31,360
It’s just something that I’ve noticed.
760
00:42:31,360 –> 00:42:37,720
But when I was wearing different bras just to see how they look, they looked great.
761
00:42:37,720 –> 00:42:39,280
I’m not going to lie.
762
00:42:39,280 –> 00:42:44,160
We ever discussed whether or not we wanted any type of nipple reconstruction or tattoos
763
00:42:44,160 –> 00:42:45,160
or anything?
764
00:42:45,160 –> 00:42:46,160
Yeah, we did.
765
00:42:46,160 –> 00:42:47,160
Yes.
766
00:42:47,160 –> 00:42:50,120
Yeah, and I told you no.
767
00:42:50,120 –> 00:42:51,280
I don’t want it either.
768
00:42:51,280 –> 00:42:52,720
I’m uninterested in it.
769
00:42:52,720 –> 00:42:57,720
I actually like not having anything because I don’t like wearing a bra.
770
00:42:57,720 –> 00:42:58,720
So that’s fine.
771
00:42:58,720 –> 00:43:04,480
There was like a woman in the breast reconstruction group who got nipple tattoos and then ended
772
00:43:04,480 –> 00:43:09,680
up having to get her implant removed because it got infected.
773
00:43:09,680 –> 00:43:14,480
And now I’m like, I absolutely even if I thought about doing it, that took any and all chance
774
00:43:14,480 –> 00:43:15,880
of me ever doing it now.
775
00:43:15,880 –> 00:43:16,880
I know me too.
776
00:43:16,880 –> 00:43:18,440
I’m not interested.
777
00:43:18,440 –> 00:43:19,440
Yeah.
778
00:43:19,440 –> 00:43:20,440
Okay.
779
00:43:20,440 –> 00:43:25,560
For anybody who is like, you know, it’s just like for my my personal stand, like I just
780
00:43:25,560 –> 00:43:28,040
i don’t want to have to.
781
00:43:28,040 –> 00:43:38,320
I’ve come to terms with how my scars look and being okay with looking at them.
782
00:43:38,320 –> 00:43:48,520
So if I did any like nipple tattooing, I think it would for me, it wouldn’t amplify my feeling
783
00:43:48,520 –> 00:43:52,480
about the situation, like how it should look.
784
00:43:52,480 –> 00:43:53,480
Right.
785
00:43:53,480 –> 00:43:54,920
I guess I agree.
786
00:43:54,920 –> 00:43:55,920
Yeah.
787
00:43:55,920 –> 00:44:01,280
The last thing I actually want to mention, I finally got my pathology report like a week
788
00:44:01,280 –> 00:44:02,280
later.
789
00:44:02,280 –> 00:44:10,080
I wasn’t like nervous per se, but I totally experienced for me ever since I had the positive
790
00:44:10,080 –> 00:44:15,480
margin like then back in my head, I was always like, okay, what if, what if, you know, I
791
00:44:15,480 –> 00:44:18,520
could have a recurrence at any moment.
792
00:44:18,520 –> 00:44:26,480
You were happy with taking the next step into removing the expander and getting implants.
793
00:44:26,480 –> 00:44:34,680
And like, I was still in the position where I’m like, okay, I still have this like reoccurring
794
00:44:34,680 –> 00:44:43,800
thought of if the pathology report comes back that it’s still positive, I don’t know what
795
00:44:43,800 –> 00:44:44,800
I would do it.
796
00:44:44,800 –> 00:44:50,600
So I needed to close that chapter once I got that pathology report.
797
00:44:50,600 –> 00:44:51,600
Yeah.
798
00:44:51,600 –> 00:44:55,880
Dr. Baker messaged me and she’s like, great news.
799
00:44:55,880 –> 00:45:03,680
The pathology report says that the skin was benign.
800
00:45:03,680 –> 00:45:08,000
And I was like, holy fuck, this is like, this is fantastic.
801
00:45:08,000 –> 00:45:11,920
So I, I texted you Sean, I was like, I was so excited.
802
00:45:11,920 –> 00:45:13,280
I was very excited.
803
00:45:13,280 –> 00:45:16,200
I felt like I could close that chapter.
804
00:45:16,200 –> 00:45:17,200
Like that’s what I wanted.
805
00:45:17,200 –> 00:45:22,520
I was in an Uber when you texted that and like, I literally texted you what I said out
806
00:45:22,520 –> 00:45:23,520
loud in the Uber.
807
00:45:23,520 –> 00:45:24,520
I was like, fuck yes.
808
00:45:24,520 –> 00:45:25,520
Yeah, fuck yes.
809
00:45:25,520 –> 00:45:26,520
Yeah, I remember.
810
00:45:26,520 –> 00:45:27,520
Yeah.
811
00:45:27,520 –> 00:45:36,280
Because the other thing was like, you know, I asked my oncologist on my birthday, like,
812
00:45:36,280 –> 00:45:37,600
you know, am I considered NED?
813
00:45:37,600 –> 00:45:39,480
And then she was like, yeah.
814
00:45:39,480 –> 00:45:45,560
But then like me personally, I didn’t feel that that was enough.
815
00:45:45,560 –> 00:45:50,680
Like yes, you can say yes, because you, we did all the treatments that were required.
816
00:45:50,680 –> 00:45:54,560
And also I’m doing this hormonal therapy, but I needed something more.
817
00:45:54,560 –> 00:46:00,040
And of course like that, like going back into surgery and removing that skin was one of
818
00:46:00,040 –> 00:46:01,040
them.
819
00:46:01,040 –> 00:46:09,920
And then I also took the Stignatera test, which detects early recurrence if there’s
820
00:46:09,920 –> 00:46:15,360
any circulating tumor cells that came out negative that there wasn’t anything.
821
00:46:15,360 –> 00:46:20,400
And then also this pathology report saying that the skin was a benign, like that makes
822
00:46:20,400 –> 00:46:23,460
i feel a lot better.
823
00:46:23,460 –> 00:46:29,480
It also made me think about choosing the right care team.
824
00:46:29,480 –> 00:46:39,920
I chose the right treatments and that those treatments that I did like helped me remove
825
00:46:39,920 –> 00:46:42,720
any remaining cancer cells that were in my body.
826
00:46:42,720 –> 00:46:49,360
Yes, I still need to do an annual checkup, making sure that there isn’t any continue
827
00:46:49,360 –> 00:46:56,080
with my hormonal therapy for the next, you know, four and a half years.
828
00:46:56,080 –> 00:47:07,080
But for right now, I feel like I could just relax and not worry as of right now about
829
00:47:07,080 –> 00:47:08,080
recurrence.
830
00:47:08,080 –> 00:47:13,040
I’m so happy that you got the results that we were both hoping for.
831
00:47:13,040 –> 00:47:15,640
And just, yeah, like that closing the book feels great.
832
00:47:15,640 –> 00:47:16,640
Like don’t get me wrong.
833
00:47:16,640 –> 00:47:20,000
There’s things that I think are always going to come up.
834
00:47:20,000 –> 00:47:21,320
I’ve loved season two.
835
00:47:21,320 –> 00:47:23,000
I think we’ve grown so much.
836
00:47:23,000 –> 00:47:26,960
Especially I think we’ve kind of found our groove now again.
837
00:47:26,960 –> 00:47:31,480
Like I feel like season one was such a way of trying to figure it all out.
838
00:47:31,480 –> 00:47:36,640
And I feel like this season, like such a, I don’t know, it’s we’ve found our groove
839
00:47:36,640 –> 00:47:39,560
and like what works for us and how it works.
840
00:47:39,560 –> 00:47:44,720
And I’m even more excited about launching this one than I was about season one.
841
00:47:44,720 –> 00:47:51,560
Season two was very special in the sense that like now, you know, we were out of treatment
842
00:47:51,560 –> 00:47:57,880
and we’re trying to navigate what it is like post cancer.
843
00:47:57,880 –> 00:48:03,840
And obviously we both had our ups and downs throughout this journey and it will still
844
00:48:03,840 –> 00:48:06,280
continue that way.
845
00:48:06,280 –> 00:48:12,460
And again, it was real and in real time, just like it was like kind of recording through
846
00:48:12,460 –> 00:48:14,000
chemo and like that treatment.
847
00:48:14,000 –> 00:48:19,280
Like everything we did was again, like real, like in real time.
848
00:48:19,280 –> 00:48:24,680
And I just think that that is like even us going back to like, listen, I recently have
849
00:48:24,680 –> 00:48:27,280
i went back and listened to a few episodes of season one.
850
00:48:27,280 –> 00:48:34,000
And I’m like, wow, I forgot not for you never really forget, but like I forgot like those
851
00:48:34,000 –> 00:48:39,120
feelings like on that particular chemo day, you know, and I just really lost it.
852
00:48:39,120 –> 00:48:44,680
Or like I look back on season two now and wow, I really had a really rough though.
853
00:48:44,680 –> 00:48:51,440
Like being in the thick of it, you know, you have those feelings and just like, I don’t
854
00:48:51,440 –> 00:48:56,080
know, just I’m going to listen to this again and just be like, wow, you know, like post
855
00:48:56,080 –> 00:48:59,680
treatment really was not kind to me.
856
00:48:59,680 –> 00:49:00,680
Yeah.
857
00:49:00,680 –> 00:49:11,240
I’m also just excited about the future and you know, putting out season three and Sean
858
00:49:11,240 –> 00:49:17,520
and I have so many ideas, so ecstatic to start working on that.
859
00:49:17,520 –> 00:49:21,640
I just want to like touch too on just like the amount of people that have like been reaching
860
00:49:21,640 –> 00:49:26,400
out to us like on social media and you know, emails and things like that.
861
00:49:26,400 –> 00:49:31,600
And we’ve had some like incredible guests this season that I mean have also have been
862
00:49:31,600 –> 00:49:36,040
keeping in touch and reaching out and just like the impact that it has on us is like
863
00:49:36,040 –> 00:49:37,680
beyond.
864
00:49:37,680 –> 00:49:42,200
I also just like love like the relationships that we have now like created with like other
865
00:49:42,200 –> 00:49:46,240
I hate the word influencers like that, like in person, like influencers and like this
866
00:49:46,240 –> 00:49:52,640
breast cancer community, you know, of just like it’s so nice, like, you know, sometimes
867
00:49:52,640 –> 00:49:58,960
female dynamics are not easy, like the easiest and like the amount of support that like everybody
868
00:49:58,960 –> 00:50:04,680
gives, whether it’s like people who are podcasting people who have like their own shows, people
869
00:50:04,680 –> 00:50:10,960
that, you know, have their own platforms and do, you know, educating on similar things
870
00:50:10,960 –> 00:50:15,520
and just like everyone is so supportive and like reposting each other and just like, you
871
00:50:15,520 –> 00:50:17,320
I just love this.
872
00:50:17,320 –> 00:50:21,600
I love I mean, I again, like I always say this isn’t a club I wanted to be a part of,
873
00:50:21,600 –> 00:50:26,080
but this is this community is incredible and I’m so grateful to be a part of it and have
874
00:50:26,080 –> 00:50:31,080
it and, you know, have women feel comfortable enough to like be coming to us and I just,
875
00:50:31,080 –> 00:50:32,080
you know, thank you.
876
00:50:32,080 –> 00:50:36,800
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877
00:50:36,800 –> 00:50:42,000
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878
00:50:42,000 –> 00:50:44,840
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00:50:44,840 –> 00:50:49,880
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