Lifestyle Changes After Breast Cancer Treatment
Since finishing breast cancer treatment, Shauna and Rosalina have been proactive in taking control of their health and wellness. In this episode, they discuss exercise, nutrition, managing stress, and what they are doing to improve their mental health.
Time stamps:
[00:05:14] Lack of joy after cancer.
[00:09:03] Struggling to be yourself.
[00:11:31] Comparing yourself to others.
[00:14:38] Work-life balance.
[00:18:02] Body image and weight loss.
[00:20:53] Gut health and cancer.
[00:24:29] Overperforming in work.
[00:27:39] Shifting Negative Thoughts.
[00:32:12] Nutritional education and holistic health.
[00:35:49] Oral health tips.
[00:39:11] Low toxic lifestyle.

Meet Rosalina and Shauna, two young millennials living on separate coasts who share real stories about their breast cancer diagnosis. We created this podcast to bring awareness of this disease to young women and create a supportive space where no one is alone on this journey. We dive deep into our treatment plans, journeys, struggles, and mental health while navigating life in this “new” normal. With every episode, our mission is to educate, empower, connect, and bring laughter. We are open and honest about our experiences and committed to learning and growing right alongside you. Welcome to our community! Join us for new episodes every Thursday! Any questions or thoughts, contact us through tyftspodcast@gmail.com or follow us on Instagram, @tyftspodcast. Visit our website at http://www.tyftspodcast.com Special thanks to Brooke Chislock @Soul_Designco for our cover art.
Since finishing breast cancer treatment, Shauna and Rosalina have been proactive in taking control of their health and wellness. In this episode, they discuss exercise, nutrition, managing stress, and what they are doing to improve their mental health.
[00:05:14] Lack of joy after cancer.
[00:09:03] Struggling to be yourself.
[00:11:31] Comparing yourself to others.
[00:14:38] Work-life balance.
[00:18:02] Body image and weight loss.
[00:20:53] Gut health and cancer.
[00:24:29] Overperforming in work.
[00:27:39] Shifting Negative Thoughts.
[00:32:12] Nutritional education and holistic health.
[00:35:49] Oral health tips.
[00:39:11] Low toxic lifestyle.
Some resources we mentioned in this episode:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/gut-microbiome-and-health#TOC_TITLE_HDR_4
https://www.mdanderson.org/cancerwise/how-to-improve-your-gut-health.h00-159538956.html
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Why am I not losing weight if I am eating a lot better
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than I was and making a lot healthier choices?
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And it really came down to my gut health, post-chemo.
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My gut has just not been the same.
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You’re gonna have good days, you’re gonna have bad days,
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but as long as you recognize that the things
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that are not working for you anymore,
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you make progress into changing that little by little.
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Hi, everyone.
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Welcome to season two.
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This is Shauna.
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And this is Rosalina.
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And we’re your hosts for Too Young for This Show podcast.
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This podcast is not just about boobs,
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but a journey with cancer.
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We are young millennials open about giving you
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our raw and unfiltered look into our lives.
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We are in no way medical professionals,
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nor are we offering medical advice.
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Any medical references are cited directly
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from public websites or form our personal diagnosis.
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Some topics and stories may be triggering
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to those who are fighting, have fought,
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or have loved someone with cancer.
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Hi, everyone.
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This is Rosalina.
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This is Shauna.
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Welcome back to the Too Young for This Show podcast.
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In this episode, we’ll be talking about
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what steps Shauna and I have been taking
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to somewhat create our own healthy lifestyle,
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whatever that looks like to us.
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But I definitely want to mention before we start
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is that a healthy lifestyle simply means doing things
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that make you happy and feel good.
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You get to decide what your healthy lifestyle looks like.
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Shauna and I just want to give you just inspiration
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or if there’s something that you’re currently dealing with,
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maybe some of the things that we mentioned on this podcast
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could help you out, especially going through
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active treatment and going through all the traumatic events
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from breast cancer.
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Shauna and I are just simply just trying to get our life
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back together somewhat.
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And that means changing some of the things
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that currently wasn’t working for us in the past.
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Right, absolutely.
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And I think also post pandemic,
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because I feel like there was a lot of habits
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that I developed during the pandemic
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that were probably not the healthiest,
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I think in so many ways, whether it was drinking too much
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or things like that, like how I was eating
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and just like splurging on different things.
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And I don’t know, I just feel like my life
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the last essentially two years has been nothing normal.
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And now trying to find, like you said,
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that new normal, the new groove that I need to be in
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to maintain health and from a mental, physical standpoint.
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Yes.
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And also just like, yeah, being able to enjoy my life
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and trying to get back on track.
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So yes, it’s like a weird transition.
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Post cancer is like, it’s a lot harder
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than I imagined it was gonna be.
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And it’s taking a lot longer than I thought it would
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to also get back into a good groove.
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I don’t know if you’re experiencing the same.
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I think after radiation, I just really wanted
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to get back to normal as much as possible.
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So I tried to like force it.
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About six months later from radiation,
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I’ve been experiencing just a few things
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which we’ll get into.
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And now I’m trying to understand what’s best for me
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and how I could be more knowledgeable,
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aware of how I’m feeling mentally and my body’s feeling.
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But before we get into that,
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I want to ask you this question, Shauna,
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just about your mental struggles.
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What are you currently feeling
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or what have you been feeling for the past few months?
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So kind of like what you said,
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how you shifted post radiation,
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just of like trying to find that new normal
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and doing it as fast as possible.
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I did the same.
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I like went from not working to back at work
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like 50 to 60 hours a week.
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There was no transition, real transition into that.
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So I definitely like kind of pushed it.
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My fatigue after radiation was like,
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I mean next level, like nothing I’ve ever experienced.
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I was crying all the time,
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just like really struggling
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to kind of get back on track.
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And at the same time in so much pain post radiation,
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like from hormone therapy, from the Lupron shot,
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I think just what my body had went through the last year,
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it all caught up to me, I feel like after the holidays.
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January and February were really, really hard for me.
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I felt like all I was doing was working.
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I felt like, if I wasn’t at work,
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I was at a doctor’s appointment.
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And then I would be home and I would be so exhausted
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and just miserable and crying all the time.
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And then I was kind of like realizing
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like my quality of life, I think after radiation
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was just like basically in the negatives.
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I was so unhappy.
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I really, I was just kept like saying,
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I feel like I don’t have any joy.
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Like I’m going to work, I’m going to the doctor’s,
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I’m coming home and then having like 48 hours on the weekend
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to try to like get my life together,
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like trying to be social, trying to get errands done,
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like clean my apartment.
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Like, it’s just to do that in like 48 hours.
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Like I just kept prioritizing like, okay,
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like if I get everything I need to get done,
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I’ll feel accomplished.
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And even though I felt like, okay, like, yeah,
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I was getting things done, like I was lacking the joy.
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I just beat cancer and I’m miserable.
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There’s no joy.
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And so that I think took me a couple of months
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to try to like figure out.
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I had just come out of the worst, obviously year of my life
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and like seeing people and like always like the top,
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the topic of conversation after seeing everyone was like,
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oh, like how are you doing?
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You know, and it’s like, I just,
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not that I wanted to like forget that it ever happened to me,
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but like, I guess you do like in a sense,
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want to not talk about it.
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Like I have been, you know, kind of going out
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with like new, new friends, you know,
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like girlfriends of like Matt’s friends
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and they are essentially like new friends.
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And it’s been so refreshing to like be around people
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and like, you know, like they’ve asked,
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but like, this is not like what I’m talking about constantly,
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which is so nice.
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It is like, finally feel like I’m back on like a track
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of just like getting to not where like cancer
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is just like a hundred percent every day.
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But socially, I felt like I was struggling.
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I don’t know if you felt like that.
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Like I felt like I didn’t know how to like talk to people.
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And I think that that comes from like a pandemic side too
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of just like not socializing like I was.
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And like meeting new people,
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I almost like don’t know how to act.
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I don’t know how to like be the social person
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I was like before this.
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So I don’t know,
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is that like something you’re struggling with as well?
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Yeah, so I would say like definitely in the beginning
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in January when I was just like ready to essentially,
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to be honest, like forget about cancer.
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I wanted to create this whole nother like Rosalina.
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And I was trying to create someone
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who was different from how I was pre-cancer.
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So I wanted to be like extroverted
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and I wanted to just be someone who,
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who I guess I’ve always secretly wanted to be in a way.
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So I try to be super social.
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I try to forget about what happened to me in the past year.
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And so when I was making new friends,
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they don’t know what I want to do.
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You’re new to LA as well.
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You sound like you moved to LA
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and like had like a social circle.
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So you’re having to build a social circle.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I had to build friendships.
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I had to start that all over essentially,
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which I’m used to and I don’t mind doing that.
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But I try to mask what happened to me.
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Then it got into the point that like I couldn’t do that.
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And when I was trying to be someone,
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not that who I’m not because like,
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people change all the time and you know,
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you can do whatever you want.
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You can be whoever you want.
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But essentially I felt deep inside
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that I was like lying to myself
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and not embracing like what I went through
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because essentially I am a breast cancer survivor
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and I need to remember that.
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And so I would try to act normal, be normal, live more,
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like vicariously, eat whatever I want,
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do whatever I want essentially.
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And I think it all caught up to me.
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I just thought of this right now
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and I wanted to mention this
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because this makes so much sense.
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So when I was trying to be someone else
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and mask the trauma that I went through
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and how I mentioned it felt like I was lying to myself,
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I did that because in my mind,
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I thought if people knew that I went through breast cancer,
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would they still want to be my friend?
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And I know that sounds so disheartening for sure,
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but I really felt that way in the beginning.
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And so I tried to push that away as much as possible.
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But what I realized and what I was working through
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with my spiritual coach and my therapist
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is that you need to be true to yourself.
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And if people don’t accept you,
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especially since you’ve gone through this traumatic experience
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and it doesn’t wholeheartedly define who you are,
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you’re so much more than just a breast cancer survivor,
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then they’re not worth your time.
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And so that’s how I shifted my mindset of just like,
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if you’re not filling my cup essentially,
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what you can provide to me and what I can provide to you
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in the sense of who we are as people,
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not necessarily what I’m labeled as,
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and you’re not worth my time.
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I think so unfairly too, I kept comparing me to you.
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I kept being like, Rosalina’s doing so great.
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She’s just living life and just really like,
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I mean, I was just like a disaster crying all the time
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and I had a mess and that I’d see you
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and going to concerts and vacations.
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And I’m just like, she’s doing great.
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Why can’t I be like her?
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I know that’s so unfair because our situations
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are so different, but I kept doing that.
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And I think that that for me was like so detrimental,
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I think to my own mental health.
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Like I had nothing to do with you.
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It was like me projecting like,
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this is how I should be doing this.
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And then on the other hand, like you’re doing it.
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And then you’re saying like, it all caught up to you.
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Like there’s only so much, not that you can fake it,
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because I don’t think you were faking it.
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I think you were just trying so hard to make something work
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that wasn’t working, like that wasn’t fitting.
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Like, is that what you’re saying?
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That’s exactly what I’m saying.
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Yep.
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Right.
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And like, it’s unfair for me to compare my situation
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to your situation where it’s me have different,
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like our jobs are different,
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who we are as people are so different.
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Like it’s not fair to do that.
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But I think like I was actually like,
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I in me doing so was like detrimental to my own mental health.
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It’s hard to not compare yourself, right?
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It is hard.
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When you go on social media and you see,
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you know, all the happy faces and everyone who like
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finished treatment and just going off with their lives,
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like you wonder, shit, am I doing something wrong?
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But I think just re-centering yourself
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and sometimes even getting off of social media
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and just, you know, focusing on who you are,
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who you want to be and what you’re currently going through
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is valid.
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Right.
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And there’s no one size fits all
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on how everyone should be handling post-treatment.
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I mean, there really isn’t.
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And it’s like so important, I think, to like note that.
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And I think we’re all just like doing the best we can.
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And now just also trying to figure out like
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what works for us.
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Like, and I think for me, I don’t know if you are in like,
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what fills my cup?
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Yes, yes.
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The analogy of like, what is filling my cup?
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What is not?
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And that I think in the last,
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I’d say like the last month or so, month and a half or so,
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has been like a big thing for me of like picking
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and choosing what is gonna be worth it.
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What’s gonna be, right?
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Like what’s gonna bring me joy?
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What is gonna fulfill me?
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What is, and I think like allowing myself to do that,
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you know, like, listen, I can check every list,
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they do everything on my checklist of things I wanna do
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to my apartment, you know, like, you know,
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keeping my life organized and tidy
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in every sense and like, I could check all that off,
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but like, is that gonna really fill my cup?
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Or like if me going to brunch with new friends,
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you know, meeting new people,
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having a different experience, gonna fill my cup.
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You know, even though I don’t get all those things done.
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So that I think has like been the balance.
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I’m trying to find the balance.
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I think that there’s been like a whole collection of things
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that like we have both adapted, you know,
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what has worked for us to get us to this point.
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So what are some of the things that you have done?
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Maintaining just a close connection with friends,
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but also with my family.
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After this cancer shit, you know,
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we’ve created more of a closer connection.
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And I value, even though I valued family before,
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I feel like I value it more now.
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I value my partner.
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We have a close bond and he’s my best friend.
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I value sleep.
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Before cancer, I would go to sleep at like 2 a.m., 3 a.m.
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It’s just fucking insane sometimes.
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So I definitely don’t do that anymore.
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And I value my sleep.
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Creating an environment that’s less stressful
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and just doing things that make me happy.
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So in October, I got a new job
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and I’ve been working there, you know, less than a year.
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And I feel so happy and appreciative.
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And I have a work-life balance.
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And whenever I need to go to the doctor’s appointment,
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I don’t need to like over-explain myself.
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You know, I think the whole first few months of 2022,
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I was really overworking myself, like very much so.
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I felt because my employers were so amazing
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and gave me the time off.
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And so when I came back that I had to be on and 100%
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and I work with two very young children.
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Jonna is a nanny, by the way.
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Yeah, a nanny in New York.
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And it was killing me, like literally from every standpoint,
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like emotionally, physically, I was so exhausted.
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And I was coming home and I was so miserable that it was,
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it was affecting my relationship with my partner.
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I didn’t have the energy to put into it.
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My partner had started a new job in the fall
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and we were both like, basically it felt like living,
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like we were living in the same house,
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but we were like living two different lives, you know?
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And it affected our relationship a lot.
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And I think, you know, now that I have been prioritizing,
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like doing fun things, making sure that I have that joy
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so that I’m not this miserable, sad,
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crying person all the time,
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I think has been definitely helping.
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I think all my relationships with my friends,
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you know, I think we all have those friends
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that we like been to, you know, having a bad day,
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but it was getting to the point where I was like talking
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to like even like my best friend, Maddie,
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and being like just crying all the time.
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And like, I don’t, it wasn’t fair to like put all of my shit
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on everybody else.
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So yes, I think being social has helped, you know,
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all of my relationships and trying to just like make sure
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that we’re having fun.
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I think it’s so important.
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But yeah, my work life was killing me.
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I had to like kind of sit down with my boss and say,
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you know, like not that I have to cut back on hours,
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but if I could come in later on certain days,
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I mean, I’m there from basically 7.45 to 7 PM.
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Like it’s almost a 12 hour day.
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Their life is a hectic.
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They have two kids that are under three years old.
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They want to go on all these trips and have friends
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and you know, they want to change my work schedule.
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It’s become like a lot to also manage my life and their life.
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So I’m trying to find that work balance.
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I think this summer is going to really be
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like a good test of that.
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My body is still healing.
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And I think that’s another thing that I absolutely
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need to remember is like, my body is needs to heal
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from the inside out too.
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And that’s like another thing that I feel like,
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I, you know, I’ve been really on myself about the weight
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that I gained during treatment.
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This is like right now the heaviest I’ve ever been.
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And then also being on the hormone meds,
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not being able to lose weight.
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And I’ve been really hard on myself.
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I mean, I’ve always had like a very pear shaped body.
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I’ve always gained weight in like my legs and my butt,
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but like, I feel like I gained weight in places
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that I never gained weight before this.
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And I was really being hard on myself.
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Now that I am off of the hormone meds
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and like my body is regulating back to my regulating back,
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like my hormones are starting to regulate now,
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I’ve lost some weight and like feeling really good about it.
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As terrified I am to like have my hormones back,
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like there is a part of me that feels like I’m back.
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My pre-cancer body is back, like by how I’m feeling,
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like I’m not in so much pain.
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I met with like a nutritionist from my cancer center
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to kind of like figure out what can I do?
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What can I do?
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I’m losing my rings every day, but I’m not losing any weight.
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Now I’m starting to see some weight loss,
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which is like kind of, it’s good for like my mental health too.
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Like to me, it’s like being being quote unquote healthy,
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which it is.
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I have never been this heavy in my life.
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I wanna be at a good weight.
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Just wanna feel good.
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Like honestly, that’s really what it comes down to.
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Like not from like a number on the scale,
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but like I just want to feel good in my body.
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I want my body to feel good.
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I want my body to feel like it’s being nourished.
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And it’s just like I was living in a foreign body
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and then trying to navigate that
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is just, it was hard trying to figure out,
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you know, like what I need to be eating more of,
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eating less of.
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I’m really trying to curve my like sweet tooth,
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which I feel like I have in the last couple of weeks
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of Matt and I are like big ice cream people.
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I love ice cream.
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That’s what I want at night.
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It’s terrible, you know, but I’ve like shifted to now
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like I have an apple in the evening.
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I’m big on apples right now.
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You know, so just like things like that,
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like those little minor, even like tweaks
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on my eating habits.
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You know, like trying to eat like a little bit more
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like gluten-free now than I am like I ever was.
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I’m like, you know, a lot of protein.
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I’m like, you know, especially for like surgery,
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healing and things like that,
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like trying to make sure that I have
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like a certain amount of protein every day.
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Yep.
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It’s kind of exhausting, but at the same time,
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it’s like, I know for the long run,
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it’s gonna be, it will get easier and I’ll feel better.
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Right.
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Do you feel that, I don’t know how many times you see
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the nutritionist, but have she given you some pointers
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that are helping you?
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She felt like really pissed after seeing her
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because it was just like, I like took time out of my day
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for her to give me the generic, you know,
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like eat your vegetables.
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Like I’m doing all that shit.
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I’m doing everything and my weight is not budging.
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And everything she told me, it’s like literally what like
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my oncologist was telling me the whole time,
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eat a balanced diet.
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Like, no, like she kind of pissed me off.
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So I’m not gonna lie to you.
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I also started to really shift, like,
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why am I not losing weight if I am like eating a lot better
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than I was and like making a lot healthier choices.
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And like, it really came down to like my gut health.
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Yes.
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Like post-chemo, like my gut has just like not been the same
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with my GI issues, you know,
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heartburn, stomach issues, pain, bloating.
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I feel bloated all the time.
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I’ve never experienced this before.
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And finally, I had talked to my radiology oncologist,
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nurse practitioner who I adore and she’s so thorough.
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She’s like one of the most thorough,
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like people that I’ve seen in my entire cancer journey.
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And she was just like,
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I need you to get tested for a bunch of things.
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Like, I need you to go see this gastro doctor.
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Like, let’s get this on track because it’s like,
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obviously affecting, like it’s affecting my mood.
472
00:21:22,160 –> 00:21:26,800
I’m exhausted, the fatigue, like I’m uncomfortable,
473
00:21:26,800 –> 00:21:29,880
have this like belly, like that I’ve never had before.
474
00:21:29,880 –> 00:21:31,680
I never gained weight in my stomach and now I do.
475
00:21:31,680 –> 00:21:34,280
And really bloated and uncomfortable feeling.
476
00:21:34,280 –> 00:21:37,880
And so I ended up going to see a gastro doctor, which,
477
00:21:37,880 –> 00:21:40,120
you know, they started to run a bunch of tests
478
00:21:40,120 –> 00:21:42,120
and I will have an endoscopy at the end of June
479
00:21:42,120 –> 00:21:43,840
to kind of like go in and like see.
480
00:21:43,840 –> 00:21:47,280
But she does believe that there is like a bacterial,
481
00:21:47,280 –> 00:21:49,400
you know, I have good bacteria fighting bad bacteria.
482
00:21:49,400 –> 00:21:52,640
And this is like just what chemo did to my gut.
483
00:21:52,640 –> 00:21:54,360
And like now just trying to figure out
484
00:21:54,360 –> 00:21:56,640
how to get myself like back on track.
485
00:21:56,640 –> 00:21:59,400
Like I’ve, I mean, I’m in like, like microbiome,
486
00:21:59,400 –> 00:22:02,720
like Reddit groups of just like, what did people do?
487
00:22:02,720 –> 00:22:04,440
Like what probiotics are you taking?
488
00:22:04,440 –> 00:22:05,880
Is it a probiotic that’s like,
489
00:22:05,880 –> 00:22:07,600
you think is messing up your gut?
490
00:22:07,600 –> 00:22:11,480
So yeah, I’ve been really just trying to get the gut
491
00:22:11,480 –> 00:22:15,240
under control, because I think that that is also affecting
492
00:22:15,240 –> 00:22:16,840
my fatigue, my mood.
493
00:22:16,840 –> 00:22:19,400
Not a lot of people talk about the health.
494
00:22:19,400 –> 00:22:21,480
Let me just say at all.
495
00:22:21,480 –> 00:22:26,480
So I am so happy that you’re,
496
00:22:26,680 –> 00:22:30,600
I think it’s your radiation oncologist nurse, right?
497
00:22:30,600 –> 00:22:31,760
Yeah, she’s great, I love her.
498
00:22:31,760 –> 00:22:35,080
Yes, I’m so happy that she mentioned that.
499
00:22:35,080 –> 00:22:38,440
Sometimes you just think that you can’t get the weight off
500
00:22:38,440 –> 00:22:40,320
because of the stuff they’re eating,
501
00:22:40,320 –> 00:22:45,320
where it could just be that you have a leaky gut
502
00:22:46,080 –> 00:22:50,400
and there are just bad bacteria that’s just taking over
503
00:22:50,400 –> 00:22:52,920
that, you know, it’s just really difficult
504
00:22:52,920 –> 00:22:55,240
for you to lose that weight.
505
00:22:55,240 –> 00:22:57,760
Yeah, I think that’s super important
506
00:22:57,760 –> 00:23:00,280
and it should be talked about more often.
507
00:23:00,280 –> 00:23:04,640
But I do want to say in the beginning, Shana,
508
00:23:04,640 –> 00:23:09,280
when you went back to work and you were going back full time
509
00:23:09,280 –> 00:23:14,280
and just hearing more and more about what you were going
510
00:23:14,280 –> 00:23:19,280
through and the long hours that you had to work,
511
00:23:19,880 –> 00:23:22,720
I really, really felt for you.
512
00:23:22,720 –> 00:23:26,320
And I wish that I could just like come
513
00:23:26,320 –> 00:23:28,000
and like just give you a hug.
514
00:23:28,000 –> 00:23:31,720
I knew that was drowning you.
515
00:23:31,720 –> 00:23:36,720
And I wanted you to make the choice of talking to your boss
516
00:23:39,560 –> 00:23:43,680
and explaining, hey, like my body is healing still
517
00:23:43,680 –> 00:23:47,960
and I mentally and physically like can’t do this.
518
00:23:47,960 –> 00:23:52,040
And I believe you had that conversation at one point
519
00:23:52,040 –> 00:23:56,320
with your boss and that is just so important
520
00:23:56,320 –> 00:24:01,000
just to being true to yourself and realizing
521
00:24:01,000 –> 00:24:05,120
what you can do and what you physically and mentally can’t do.
522
00:24:05,120 –> 00:24:08,360
I know, I think that it was really in my own way.
523
00:24:08,360 –> 00:24:10,880
You know, I put so much pressure on myself,
524
00:24:10,880 –> 00:24:13,320
like feeling like I needed to be a hundred percent,
525
00:24:13,320 –> 00:24:15,880
like rather than just saying like, you know,
526
00:24:15,880 –> 00:24:17,640
I need to go home a little early today,
527
00:24:17,640 –> 00:24:21,440
like I’m not doing well, you know, and just, I pushed it.
528
00:24:21,440 –> 00:24:23,760
I pushed it too hard because I didn’t want
529
00:24:23,760 –> 00:24:25,360
to disappoint anybody.
530
00:24:25,360 –> 00:24:26,280
Like I didn’t want, you know,
531
00:24:26,280 –> 00:24:29,160
like I didn’t want my employers to think like they waited,
532
00:24:29,160 –> 00:24:32,040
they got a temporary nanny and like waited for me to come back.
533
00:24:32,040 –> 00:24:34,400
They like wanted to keep me on and I wanted to be there.
534
00:24:34,400 –> 00:24:38,040
So I felt like I really needed to like perform, overperform.
535
00:24:38,040 –> 00:24:39,640
And I mean, I did the best I can,
536
00:24:39,640 –> 00:24:42,360
but I killed myself doing it and it wasn’t on them.
537
00:24:42,360 –> 00:24:43,200
It was me.
538
00:24:43,200 –> 00:24:45,080
It was the only pressure I was putting on myself.
539
00:24:45,080 –> 00:24:46,480
I didn’t feel like it was them.
540
00:24:46,480 –> 00:24:47,320
It was me.
541
00:24:47,320 –> 00:24:49,120
It was me doing it to myself.
542
00:24:49,120 –> 00:24:51,640
And like that also like isn’t a fair thing to do.
543
00:24:51,640 –> 00:24:56,080
I thought I just was on this like wave of like,
544
00:24:56,080 –> 00:24:57,680
you’re failing and get it together.
545
00:24:57,680 –> 00:25:00,400
And like, I saw I was overperforming in every aspect
546
00:25:00,400 –> 00:25:03,240
of my life and caught up to me and it wasn’t great.
547
00:25:03,240 –> 00:25:08,240
And you know, I’m trying to figure out how to,
548
00:25:08,880 –> 00:25:10,840
to find the balance and everything.
549
00:25:10,840 –> 00:25:12,520
Yeah. At the end of the day,
550
00:25:12,520 –> 00:25:14,440
like you don’t want to lose your job.
551
00:25:14,440 –> 00:25:17,040
No one wants to lose their job, right?
552
00:25:17,040 –> 00:25:19,720
So like, because they gave you all this time,
553
00:25:19,720 –> 00:25:23,160
like you felt like you needed to perform,
554
00:25:23,160 –> 00:25:25,880
like you needed to give everything to them
555
00:25:25,880 –> 00:25:27,920
because they gave everything to you.
556
00:25:27,920 –> 00:25:30,640
Right. And I, and I was like a machine.
557
00:25:30,640 –> 00:25:32,600
Like I felt like I’m not a machine.
558
00:25:32,600 –> 00:25:34,920
I need to rest.
559
00:25:34,920 –> 00:25:37,520
My body is still like in no shape to even be working
560
00:25:37,520 –> 00:25:38,600
these hours right now.
561
00:25:38,600 –> 00:25:41,600
And like, I had to shift it to like, I doing,
562
00:25:41,600 –> 00:25:43,400
I’m going to do the best I can.
563
00:25:43,400 –> 00:25:45,080
If it doesn’t work for them,
564
00:25:45,080 –> 00:25:46,880
then they have to do obviously what is best
565
00:25:46,880 –> 00:25:49,440
for their family dynamic and like their family.
566
00:25:49,440 –> 00:25:51,480
And like, if it’s replacing me, then it’s replacing me.
567
00:25:51,480 –> 00:25:53,800
But like, I can only give so much.
568
00:25:53,800 –> 00:25:56,400
And I think like, when it comes to even like a mind shift,
569
00:25:56,400 –> 00:26:00,520
I’ve had to mind shift a lot of things recently,
570
00:26:00,520 –> 00:26:03,800
I feel like of just when it comes to stress,
571
00:26:03,800 –> 00:26:05,280
like stress in general,
572
00:26:05,280 –> 00:26:09,200
what stress can do to your body is just so unbelievable.
573
00:26:09,200 –> 00:26:13,480
And I am somebody that always needs to be 20 steps ahead.
574
00:26:13,480 –> 00:26:17,120
I need to literally pick apart every situation
575
00:26:17,120 –> 00:26:21,280
and expect all of these crazy things
576
00:26:21,280 –> 00:26:22,960
that could ever possibly happen
577
00:26:22,960 –> 00:26:25,880
and that probably won’t because if I am caught off guard,
578
00:26:25,880 –> 00:26:28,440
it’s way worse for me.
579
00:26:28,440 –> 00:26:30,040
You know, like if I can at least expect
580
00:26:30,040 –> 00:26:33,000
that it’s going to happen and mentally prepare myself,
581
00:26:33,000 –> 00:26:35,160
I’m way better in that situation.
582
00:26:35,160 –> 00:26:37,880
But that requires so much energy, right?
583
00:26:37,880 –> 00:26:40,560
It requires like an obscene amount of energy
584
00:26:40,560 –> 00:26:41,680
to have to live like that.
585
00:26:41,680 –> 00:26:43,440
And that also causes a lot of stress.
586
00:26:43,440 –> 00:26:47,560
And like living in a body like that constantly is exhausting.
587
00:26:47,560 –> 00:26:48,440
I recognize it.
588
00:26:48,440 –> 00:26:50,560
I’ve recognized that I’ve lived my life like this,
589
00:26:50,560 –> 00:26:53,920
probably my entire life, which obviously comes
590
00:26:53,920 –> 00:26:58,920
from how I grew up and the amount of like chaos
591
00:26:59,880 –> 00:27:01,120
in the house that I grew up in.
592
00:27:01,120 –> 00:27:04,640
And these are coping mechanisms, defense mechanisms,
593
00:27:04,640 –> 00:27:05,960
like I’m aware of it.
594
00:27:05,960 –> 00:27:08,760
And I talk about it in therapy and my therapist,
595
00:27:08,760 –> 00:27:11,240
I mean, I was having like crazy, crazy,
596
00:27:11,240 –> 00:27:15,200
like basically like PTSD moments.
597
00:27:15,200 –> 00:27:19,600
Like I was having like very, very visual thoughts
598
00:27:19,600 –> 00:27:22,520
of like getting hit by a car, getting into car accidents,
599
00:27:22,520 –> 00:27:24,120
getting hit by a car with the baby,
600
00:27:24,120 –> 00:27:25,800
pushing the baby in the stroller that I was working at.
601
00:27:25,800 –> 00:27:27,160
Like that is crazy.
602
00:27:27,160 –> 00:27:28,680
Like, and it got to the point where I was in therapy
603
00:27:28,680 –> 00:27:29,760
being like, am I crazy?
604
00:27:29,760 –> 00:27:31,800
Like, why am I thinking like this?
605
00:27:31,800 –> 00:27:34,040
I don’t even know why I’m thinking like this.
606
00:27:34,040 –> 00:27:35,800
Like they’re obviously like,
607
00:27:35,800 –> 00:27:37,800
this could happen to me at any point, you know?
608
00:27:37,800 –> 00:27:38,640
I could be walking down the street
609
00:27:38,640 –> 00:27:39,760
and get hit by a car at any point,
610
00:27:39,760 –> 00:27:41,560
but like why in this moment right now
611
00:27:41,560 –> 00:27:44,120
am I having these thoughts, right?
612
00:27:44,120 –> 00:27:47,480
And she’s like, well, just like you need to start
613
00:27:47,480 –> 00:27:49,200
like holding space for it and saying like, you know,
614
00:27:49,200 –> 00:27:51,240
like, yeah, like, but what if that doesn’t happen?
615
00:27:51,240 –> 00:27:53,240
Have a thought, you don’t have to live in that thought,
616
00:27:53,240 –> 00:27:56,560
like recognize it and let’s move forward, you know?
617
00:27:56,560 –> 00:28:00,520
And trying to incorporate that into my everyday life
618
00:28:00,520 –> 00:28:03,040
has been like a lot more helpful.
619
00:28:03,040 –> 00:28:04,520
I’m not sitting here obsessing over things
620
00:28:04,520 –> 00:28:06,560
that could possibly happen that will probably never happen.
621
00:28:06,560 –> 00:28:09,520
And I’m saving that energy for other things.
622
00:28:09,520 –> 00:28:11,160
But going in situations like, you know what?
623
00:28:11,160 –> 00:28:12,920
If that does happen, we’ll cross that bridge
624
00:28:12,920 –> 00:28:14,440
when it does happen, you know?
625
00:28:14,440 –> 00:28:19,440
And it’s definitely been like the way better place to live.
626
00:28:20,400 –> 00:28:22,200
And granted, like, these are things
627
00:28:22,200 –> 00:28:23,840
that like I’m learning every day.
628
00:28:23,840 –> 00:28:25,240
This isn’t like happened overnight.
629
00:28:25,240 –> 00:28:26,640
Like I have therapy every week,
630
00:28:26,640 –> 00:28:29,040
but like, you know, I have to constantly try
631
00:28:29,040 –> 00:28:31,160
to think this way and shift these thoughts.
632
00:28:31,160 –> 00:28:32,320
And like, yes, it’s exhausting,
633
00:28:32,320 –> 00:28:33,480
but I do believe it’s helpful.
634
00:28:33,480 –> 00:28:34,720
It’s just progress.
635
00:28:34,720 –> 00:28:36,360
And I also don’t need to also live in a place
636
00:28:36,360 –> 00:28:38,000
where I just like have to just look
637
00:28:38,000 –> 00:28:39,120
at the bright side of everything.
638
00:28:39,120 –> 00:28:41,520
Like that’s also not a fair way to live as well.
639
00:28:41,520 –> 00:28:44,240
So like literally recognizing like, yeah, like this,
640
00:28:44,240 –> 00:28:46,440
this sucks, but I don’t have to live that.
641
00:28:46,440 –> 00:28:47,680
Exactly.
642
00:28:47,680 –> 00:28:49,080
Living that way is like,
643
00:28:49,080 –> 00:28:51,360
it’s like I’m living in a better body, right?
644
00:28:51,360 –> 00:28:52,800
That’s just like so good.
645
00:28:52,800 –> 00:28:56,880
Like, I’m so glad you’ve like gotten to that point.
646
00:28:56,880 –> 00:28:59,320
Well, your mind and body are so connected.
647
00:28:59,320 –> 00:29:01,200
You know, like I said, it’s not every day is like that,
648
00:29:01,200 –> 00:29:02,440
but like I’m learning more and more.
649
00:29:02,440 –> 00:29:03,440
But you’re learning, yes.
650
00:29:03,440 –> 00:29:04,280
Yeah, exactly.
651
00:29:04,280 –> 00:29:05,840
I mean, yeah, nobody’s ever like,
652
00:29:05,840 –> 00:29:07,360
I can’t snap my fingers and be like,
653
00:29:07,360 –> 00:29:10,360
oh, this is, today I’m gonna live like this.
654
00:29:10,360 –> 00:29:13,040
Like, no, I think just, you know, like we always,
655
00:29:13,040 –> 00:29:15,280
you know, we’ve talked about like giving ourselves grace
656
00:29:15,280 –> 00:29:16,400
on this podcast a lot.
657
00:29:16,400 –> 00:29:18,440
And I think it’s easier said than done.
658
00:29:18,440 –> 00:29:22,000
We all go through different things in life.
659
00:29:22,000 –> 00:29:24,800
And it’s always going to be a thing
660
00:29:24,800 –> 00:29:27,480
where you’re continuously working on yourself.
661
00:29:27,480 –> 00:29:29,120
It’s never gonna end.
662
00:29:29,120 –> 00:29:30,960
You’re gonna have good days, you’re gonna have bad days.
663
00:29:30,960 –> 00:29:33,880
But as long as you recognize that the things
664
00:29:33,880 –> 00:29:35,760
that are not working for you anymore,
665
00:29:35,760 –> 00:29:38,760
you make progress into changing that little by little.
666
00:29:38,760 –> 00:29:41,440
And you know, it’s not gonna change overnight.
667
00:29:41,440 –> 00:29:44,160
What you mentioned, Shauna, like it just takes time.
668
00:29:44,160 –> 00:29:45,320
You need to be patient.
669
00:29:46,280 –> 00:29:51,280
Some of the things in terms of just nutrition
670
00:29:51,280 –> 00:29:54,560
and staying active.
671
00:29:54,560 –> 00:29:57,800
One of the things that, you know,
672
00:29:57,800 –> 00:30:02,800
I did in the beginning of this year was dancing, right?
673
00:30:03,600 –> 00:30:07,360
And that is essentially just cardio.
674
00:30:07,360 –> 00:30:12,080
But what was missing was the strength training,
675
00:30:12,080 –> 00:30:16,080
increasing my bone health and making sure
676
00:30:16,080 –> 00:30:19,600
that I’m constantly focusing on that
677
00:30:19,600 –> 00:30:24,600
and also combat the side effects that I have been getting
678
00:30:26,720 –> 00:30:31,280
in terms of the aromatous inhibitor and the Lupron shots.
679
00:30:31,280 –> 00:30:36,280
I decided that, I believe it’s the past five weeks now,
680
00:30:36,280 –> 00:30:39,280
I joined a gym and the primary reason
681
00:30:39,280 –> 00:30:44,280
is to start lifting weights, obviously just going small
682
00:30:44,640 –> 00:30:46,320
and then maybe potentially going big.
683
00:30:46,320 –> 00:30:49,960
But, you know, my whole point of that
684
00:30:49,960 –> 00:30:54,360
is just to improve my mobility of my left arm.
685
00:30:54,360 –> 00:30:56,000
But, you know, as I mentioned,
686
00:30:56,000 –> 00:31:00,080
it’s essentially just to prevent bone loss,
687
00:31:00,080 –> 00:31:02,160
especially since I’m on this medication.
688
00:31:02,160 –> 00:31:06,400
The other thing that I did was my boyfriend
689
00:31:06,400 –> 00:31:11,400
has an electric bike he got as a gift from his work.
690
00:31:12,760 –> 00:31:15,120
I mean, it’s like a rental, but I say it’s a gift
691
00:31:15,120 –> 00:31:18,040
because I just think it’s amazing that his company
692
00:31:18,040 –> 00:31:21,320
just rented him this electric bike.
693
00:31:21,320 –> 00:31:26,200
But he was just like, hey, you should purchase a bike too
694
00:31:26,200 –> 00:31:28,080
so we can go on bike rides.
695
00:31:28,080 –> 00:31:30,880
I purchased the bike, not an electric bike,
696
00:31:30,880 –> 00:31:33,680
but I bought it at a pawn shop
697
00:31:33,680 –> 00:31:38,040
and I got it fixed up a bit, just checked,
698
00:31:38,040 –> 00:31:39,960
like went to the bike shop,
699
00:31:39,960 –> 00:31:41,800
checked for inspections and stuff.
700
00:31:41,800 –> 00:31:45,520
We’ve been going on bike rides just a few times
701
00:31:45,520 –> 00:31:49,560
going down Santa Monica, so that’s been super fun
702
00:31:49,560 –> 00:31:53,680
and just another way to stay active.
703
00:31:53,680 –> 00:31:55,680
Nat and I do that a lot when we’re out East
704
00:31:55,680 –> 00:31:56,800
and it’s fun.
705
00:31:56,800 –> 00:31:59,640
It is, it really is, yeah.
706
00:31:59,640 –> 00:32:01,600
Just get that fresh air.
707
00:32:01,600 –> 00:32:03,960
I just feel like you’ve accomplished so much
708
00:32:03,960 –> 00:32:07,600
the day instead of just like sitting on the couch.
709
00:32:08,560 –> 00:32:12,840
In terms of just nutritional education,
710
00:32:12,840 –> 00:32:17,600
being up to date in the knowledge that I can gain
711
00:32:17,600 –> 00:32:21,440
from different sources that I find online,
712
00:32:21,440 –> 00:32:24,800
I’ve been following different Instagram accounts
713
00:32:24,800 –> 00:32:28,080
and also podcasts about holistic health
714
00:32:28,080 –> 00:32:32,240
and ways to better eat your food essentially.
715
00:32:32,240 –> 00:32:35,120
So one of the Instagram accounts that I follow,
716
00:32:35,120 –> 00:32:37,360
her name is Glucose Goddess.
717
00:32:37,360 –> 00:32:42,360
She is a biochemist who creates simplistic comparison charts
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of different food groups and how to eat the food
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that could flatten or decrease your glucose spikes.
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The key things that I’ve learned from her
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is that big glucose spikes lead to inflammation,
722
00:32:55,240 –> 00:32:59,640
aging, gaining weight and not being able to burn fat,
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deregulated hormones, energy swings, hunger and cravings.
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How she calculated the way that you should eat your food
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00:33:08,120 –> 00:33:11,800
in the right order is to eat your veggies first,
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then your protein and fats, then your starch.
727
00:33:15,400 –> 00:33:17,280
And if you want to eat dessert,
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00:33:17,280 –> 00:33:19,640
it is best to do it after you eat a meal
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00:33:19,640 –> 00:33:21,600
and not on an empty stomach.
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00:33:21,600 –> 00:33:25,080
And then also after you eat a meal,
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you walk to just get all that food
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00:33:28,640 –> 00:33:32,200
to just process well in your body and such like that.
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00:33:32,200 –> 00:33:35,320
So I’ve been doing that for a few months now.
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I’ve been eating my vegetables first
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and then going through that order.
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00:33:40,680 –> 00:33:45,680
And I definitely feel that my cravings has lessened for sure.
737
00:33:47,480 –> 00:33:51,200
I just felt like my overall mood has changed.
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00:33:51,200 –> 00:33:54,400
The other Instagram account that I’ve been following
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00:33:54,400 –> 00:33:58,800
for the past two years, but I just love who she is.
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00:33:58,800 –> 00:34:02,600
I love her personality and I love who she is as a person.
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Her name is Organic Olivia.
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She’s an herbalist.
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She’s like 28 years old, so she’s kind of similar to my age.
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00:34:09,720 –> 00:34:13,360
But even though she has her own set of brands,
745
00:34:13,360 –> 00:34:18,080
she sells like tincture, herbs and different supplements.
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But she takes you through the things
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00:34:21,200 –> 00:34:24,280
that she’s currently going through in her life.
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00:34:24,280 –> 00:34:27,120
Just a couple of things that she was going through
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00:34:27,120 –> 00:34:31,880
is like minimizing caffeine and the reason why she’s doing that.
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00:34:31,880 –> 00:34:35,720
And she kind of takes you throughout that whole journey,
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00:34:35,720 –> 00:34:37,640
which I think is like absolutely amazing
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00:34:37,640 –> 00:34:40,240
and sometimes like inspirational as well,
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00:34:40,240 –> 00:34:41,360
because then you’re like,
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00:34:41,360 –> 00:34:44,040
oh, should I minimize caffeine as well?
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00:34:44,040 –> 00:34:48,720
She also did like a challenge where she walked
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00:34:48,720 –> 00:34:53,000
like three times a day for the past, I think, couple months.
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00:34:53,000 –> 00:34:58,800
And she noticed that her overall mood has changed, has elevated.
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00:34:58,800 –> 00:35:03,280
She felt like in terms of her weight, she lost a few pounds.
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00:35:03,280 –> 00:35:04,840
She feels great.
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00:35:04,840 –> 00:35:08,840
Whenever she shares her stories on Instagram,
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00:35:08,840 –> 00:35:11,680
I think it just comes organically
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00:35:11,680 –> 00:35:14,560
and it’s something that she’s currently dealing with
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00:35:14,560 –> 00:35:17,320
and she wants to share with her followers,
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00:35:17,320 –> 00:35:22,480
like what she’s doing to better her lifestyle, her health.
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00:35:22,480 –> 00:35:26,160
And she’s continuously like working and being educated.
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00:35:26,160 –> 00:35:29,360
And the other thing I’ve learned, I don’t know if it’s just me.
767
00:35:29,360 –> 00:35:31,960
I don’t know if I’m just like the dumb one, who knows?
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00:35:31,960 –> 00:35:34,920
But I learned about dental health from her.
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00:35:34,920 –> 00:35:41,040
And one of the key things I learned that I completely changed
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00:35:41,040 –> 00:35:49,240
like how I do my oral health is essentially flossing before brushing.
771
00:35:49,240 –> 00:35:54,720
I’ve always done it where I brush my teeth first, then I floss.
772
00:35:54,720 –> 00:36:00,000
But it’s a total game changer for me when I floss first, then brush.
773
00:36:00,000 –> 00:36:03,960
I don’t know about you, Shauna, if you do that in that order.
774
00:36:03,960 –> 00:36:05,440
No, I think I’ve done it backwards.
775
00:36:05,440 –> 00:36:06,400
Yeah.
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00:36:06,400 –> 00:36:07,960
No.
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00:36:07,960 –> 00:36:08,760
Why so?
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00:36:08,760 –> 00:36:09,520
Just out of curiosity.
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00:36:09,520 –> 00:36:13,320
What I’ve learned is that you want to take the gunk out
780
00:36:13,320 –> 00:36:19,440
because if you brush your teeth first, it pushes the gunk in.
781
00:36:19,440 –> 00:36:26,840
And it might be harder for you to take everything out once you floss after.
782
00:36:26,840 –> 00:36:31,320
When I’ve been flossing first and then brushing after like six months.
783
00:36:31,320 –> 00:36:36,680
When I went to see the dentist, he mentioned that my teeth looked great.
784
00:36:36,680 –> 00:36:41,800
Because a lot of times when I’ve been to the dentist in the past,
785
00:36:41,800 –> 00:36:45,360
they always tell me that I need to floss more.
786
00:36:45,360 –> 00:36:50,400
I bleed with my gums and sometimes I don’t look healthy.
787
00:36:50,400 –> 00:36:56,120
But at this point in my life, they have been looking healthy
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00:36:56,120 –> 00:36:59,080
because I’ve been flossing every fucking day.
789
00:36:59,080 –> 00:37:04,120
So yeah, I think oral health is important as well.
790
00:37:04,120 –> 00:37:07,520
And also because chemo can really mess with your teeth as well.
791
00:37:07,520 –> 00:37:14,560
And that is exactly why I’ve decided to take my oral health seriously.
792
00:37:14,560 –> 00:37:20,480
In terms of a podcast, I listened to Dr. Gonzalez.
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00:37:20,480 –> 00:37:23,320
I believe his podcast is called Heal Thyself.
794
00:37:23,320 –> 00:37:28,440
He’s a naturopathic doctor who is focusing on giving people the tools they need
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00:37:28,440 –> 00:37:32,520
to truly heal from the inside out and bringing in experts
796
00:37:32,520 –> 00:37:35,680
to talk about relative issues about health.
797
00:37:35,680 –> 00:37:39,560
Bringing in experts, what are the things that we need to look for currently?
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00:37:39,560 –> 00:37:44,760
What is being toxic in our environment, in the clothes that we wear,
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00:37:44,760 –> 00:37:47,120
in the makeup that we buy?
800
00:37:47,120 –> 00:37:50,760
And then talks about stress and gut health, he mentions as well.
801
00:37:50,760 –> 00:37:55,040
So I just find his podcast to be super informative.
802
00:37:55,040 –> 00:37:58,080
I just think that overall knowledge is great to have.
803
00:37:58,080 –> 00:38:02,360
One of the experts that he brought in, her name is Dr. Yvonne.
804
00:38:02,360 –> 00:38:04,600
She’s a toxicity expert.
805
00:38:04,600 –> 00:38:09,520
Some of the things that I’ve learned from her is purchasing skincare,
806
00:38:09,520 –> 00:38:12,960
makeup products that are non-toxic.
807
00:38:12,960 –> 00:38:17,040
Cosmetics and personal care products are the most underrepresented sources
808
00:38:17,040 –> 00:38:18,840
of toxic exposure.
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00:38:18,840 –> 00:38:21,560
She empowers you to be more educated and knowledgeable
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00:38:21,560 –> 00:38:27,600
in learning to read the ingredient labels and how to live a low toxic life.
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00:38:27,600 –> 00:38:29,840
So I follow her on Instagram as well.
812
00:38:29,840 –> 00:38:35,920
And I’ve gradually started to shift over some things.
813
00:38:35,920 –> 00:38:39,840
But then I kind of stopped that.
814
00:38:39,840 –> 00:38:46,040
And then I kind of continued with the bronzer that I used to wear and I loved.
815
00:38:46,040 –> 00:38:53,080
And now I shifted back into only using clean makeup products
816
00:38:53,080 –> 00:38:54,840
and personal care products.
817
00:38:54,840 –> 00:38:57,920
The thing that she mentions that you want to get rid of stuff
818
00:38:57,920 –> 00:39:00,680
is one thing at a time, right?
819
00:39:00,680 –> 00:39:03,840
You don’t want to do it all at once because you’re going to overwhelm yourself.
820
00:39:03,840 –> 00:39:11,160
Definitely did it in different stages because I just want to live a low toxic lifestyle
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00:39:11,160 –> 00:39:16,400
as much as I can in terms of the products that I use on my body.
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00:39:16,400 –> 00:39:21,640
Those are the IG accounts and the podcasts that I’ve been listening to.
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00:39:21,640 –> 00:39:26,240
And then lastly, I just want to mention I went to see a naturopathic doctor.
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00:39:26,240 –> 00:39:34,360
And the reason why I decided to see one is because I loved, absolutely loved
825
00:39:34,360 –> 00:39:37,160
the naturopathic doctor that I had back in Seattle.
826
00:39:37,160 –> 00:39:44,000
I felt that I’ve learned so much more than a traditional physician
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00:39:44,000 –> 00:39:45,560
that I’ve seen in the past.
828
00:39:45,560 –> 00:39:52,240
In my personal opinion, I felt that they provide way more information
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00:39:52,240 –> 00:39:59,560
of just understanding how your body works, being more educated on what causes inflammation
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00:39:59,560 –> 00:40:01,480
and toxins in your body.
831
00:40:01,480 –> 00:40:08,120
Also, they talk about gut health, where I feel like my primary physician does not
832
00:40:08,120 –> 00:40:11,640
and I’ve never had any doctor talk about gut health.
833
00:40:11,640 –> 00:40:14,600
We talked about different tests.
834
00:40:14,600 –> 00:40:21,000
I took a microbiome gut health test and I also took a heavy metal exam.
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00:40:21,000 –> 00:40:26,000
I actually just saw her this past Wednesday and we went through my results.
836
00:40:26,000 –> 00:40:30,160
And essentially with the heavy metals test, everything was normal.
837
00:40:30,160 –> 00:40:37,200
In terms of the gut health, I do have a few information of just bad bacteria.
838
00:40:37,200 –> 00:40:42,280
And so she’s been helping me in trying to get rid of those.
839
00:40:42,280 –> 00:40:46,960
But one of the things that I love about her is the first thing that I mentioned to her
840
00:40:46,960 –> 00:40:48,840
was I have breast cancer.
841
00:40:48,840 –> 00:40:55,640
You cannot prescribe me with anything that could disrupt the current medication that
842
00:40:55,640 –> 00:41:01,000
I have or anything that produces hormones, estrogen or periosteone.
843
00:41:01,000 –> 00:41:04,200
And so I specifically mentioned that to her.
844
00:41:04,200 –> 00:41:10,600
I absolutely love her and I feel that I’ve gotten so much education from her in terms
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00:41:10,600 –> 00:41:17,000
of different ways that I can take care of my body besides just seeing an oncologist
846
00:41:17,000 –> 00:41:19,680
and how I can prevent cancer.
847
00:41:19,680 –> 00:41:24,360
Because the thing that I got frustrated with my oncologist, maybe I just thought that my
848
00:41:24,360 –> 00:41:30,520
oncologist is knowledgeable in everything and I felt like maybe she could tell me about
849
00:41:30,520 –> 00:41:32,240
how to take care of my body in general.
850
00:41:32,240 –> 00:41:38,720
But essentially they don’t provide that information and I think they are only an expert in oncology
851
00:41:38,720 –> 00:41:39,720
per se.
852
00:41:39,720 –> 00:41:42,720
They’re not an expert in nutrition or any of that.
853
00:41:42,720 –> 00:41:47,280
So I don’t think they could really provide you in-depth information.
854
00:41:47,280 –> 00:41:53,280
I was really frustrated with my oncologist and I was like, okay, maybe she’s not the
855
00:41:53,280 –> 00:41:56,640
right person to ask these specific questions.
856
00:41:56,640 –> 00:42:01,760
I think it needs to be someone else who is more knowledgeable.
857
00:42:01,760 –> 00:42:09,080
I definitely learned so much from my naturopathic doctor and those are the steps I’ve gradually
858
00:42:09,080 –> 00:42:10,080
been taking.
859
00:42:10,080 –> 00:42:13,360
It didn’t happen all in one night.
860
00:42:13,360 –> 00:42:19,880
These have gradually been a thing over the past six months that I’ve been educating
861
00:42:19,880 –> 00:42:20,880
myself.
862
00:42:20,880 –> 00:42:24,320
I think that this was like a kind of like love that we did this episode.
863
00:42:24,320 –> 00:42:33,080
I feel like there’s no rhyme or reason to getting your body back into some sort of rhythm.
864
00:42:33,080 –> 00:42:41,960
It could be anything from mental health, gut health, diet, exercise, going out with friends.
865
00:42:41,960 –> 00:42:48,640
Such a wide variety of things to do to maintain whatever this quote unquote healthy lifestyle
866
00:42:48,640 –> 00:42:49,640
is.
867
00:42:49,640 –> 00:42:50,640
Everybody is different.
868
00:42:50,640 –> 00:42:51,640
Exactly.
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00:42:51,640 –> 00:42:56,680
It’s whatever works for you mentally and physically.
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00:42:56,680 –> 00:43:00,520
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00:43:05,760 –> 00:43:08,560
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00:43:08,560 –> 00:43:13,620
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