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Why am I not losing weight if I am eating a lot better

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than I was and making a lot healthier choices?

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And it really came down to my gut health, post-chemo.

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My gut has just not been the same.

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You’re gonna have good days, you’re gonna have bad days,

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but as long as you recognize that the things

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that are not working for you anymore,

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you make progress into changing that little by little.

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Hi, everyone.

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Welcome to season two.

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This is Shauna.

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And this is Rosalina.

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And we’re your hosts for Too Young for This Show podcast.

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This podcast is not just about boobs,

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but a journey with cancer.

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We are young millennials open about giving you

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our raw and unfiltered look into our lives.

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We are in no way medical professionals,

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nor are we offering medical advice.

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Any medical references are cited directly

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from public websites or form our personal diagnosis.

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Some topics and stories may be triggering

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to those who are fighting, have fought,

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or have loved someone with cancer.

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Hi, everyone.

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This is Rosalina.

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This is Shauna.

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Welcome back to the Too Young for This Show podcast.

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In this episode, we’ll be talking about

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what steps Shauna and I have been taking

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to somewhat create our own healthy lifestyle,

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whatever that looks like to us.

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But I definitely want to mention before we start

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is that a healthy lifestyle simply means doing things

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that make you happy and feel good.

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You get to decide what your healthy lifestyle looks like.

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Shauna and I just want to give you just inspiration

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or if there’s something that you’re currently dealing with,

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maybe some of the things that we mentioned on this podcast

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could help you out, especially going through

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active treatment and going through all the traumatic events

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from breast cancer.

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Shauna and I are just simply just trying to get our life

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back together somewhat.

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And that means changing some of the things

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that currently wasn’t working for us in the past.

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Right, absolutely.

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And I think also post pandemic,

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because I feel like there was a lot of habits

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that I developed during the pandemic

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that were probably not the healthiest,

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I think in so many ways, whether it was drinking too much

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or things like that, like how I was eating

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and just like splurging on different things.

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And I don’t know, I just feel like my life

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the last essentially two years has been nothing normal.

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And now trying to find, like you said,

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that new normal, the new groove that I need to be in

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to maintain health and from a mental, physical standpoint.

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Yes.

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And also just like, yeah, being able to enjoy my life

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and trying to get back on track.

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So yes, it’s like a weird transition.

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Post cancer is like, it’s a lot harder

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than I imagined it was gonna be.

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And it’s taking a lot longer than I thought it would

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to also get back into a good groove.

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I don’t know if you’re experiencing the same.

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I think after radiation, I just really wanted

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to get back to normal as much as possible.

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So I tried to like force it.

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About six months later from radiation,

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I’ve been experiencing just a few things

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which we’ll get into.

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and how I could be more knowledgeable,

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aware of how I’m feeling mentally and my body’s feeling.

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But before we get into that,

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I want to ask you this question, Shauna,

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just about your mental struggles.

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What are you currently feeling

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or what have you been feeling for the past few months?

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So kind of like what you said,

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how you shifted post radiation,

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just of like trying to find that new normal

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and doing it as fast as possible.

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I did the same.

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I like went from not working to back at work

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like 50 to 60 hours a week.

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There was no transition, real transition into that.

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So I definitely like kind of pushed it.

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My fatigue after radiation was like,

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I mean next level, like nothing I’ve ever experienced.

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I was crying all the time,

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just like really struggling

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to kind of get back on track.

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like from hormone therapy, from the Lupron shot,

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I think just what my body had went through the last year,

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it all caught up to me, I feel like after the holidays.

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January and February were really, really hard for me.

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I felt like all I was doing was working.

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I felt like, if I wasn’t at work,

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I was at a doctor’s appointment.

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And then I would be home and I would be so exhausted

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and just miserable and crying all the time.

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like my quality of life, I think after radiation

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was just like basically in the negatives.

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I was so unhappy.

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I really, I was just kept like saying,

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I feel like I don’t have any joy.

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Like I’m going to work, I’m going to the doctor’s,

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I’m coming home and then having like 48 hours on the weekend

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to try to like get my life together,

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like trying to be social, trying to get errands done,

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like clean my apartment.

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Like, it’s just to do that in like 48 hours.

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Like I just kept prioritizing like, okay,

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like if I get everything I need to get done,

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I’ll feel accomplished.

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And even though I felt like, okay, like, yeah,

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I was getting things done, like I was lacking the joy.

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I just beat cancer and I’m miserable.

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There’s no joy.

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And so that I think took me a couple of months

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to try to like figure out.

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I had just come out of the worst, obviously year of my life

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and like seeing people and like always like the top,

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the topic of conversation after seeing everyone was like,

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oh, like how are you doing?

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You know, and it’s like, I just,

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not that I wanted to like forget that it ever happened to me,

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but like, I guess you do like in a sense,

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want to not talk about it.

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Like I have been, you know, kind of going out

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with like new, new friends, you know,

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like girlfriends of like Matt’s friends

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and they are essentially like new friends.

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And it’s been so refreshing to like be around people

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and like, you know, like they’ve asked,

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but like, this is not like what I’m talking about constantly,

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which is so nice.

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It is like, finally feel like I’m back on like a track

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of just like getting to not where like cancer

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is just like a hundred percent every day.

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But socially, I felt like I was struggling.

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I don’t know if you felt like that.

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Like I felt like I didn’t know how to like talk to people.

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And I think that that comes from like a pandemic side too

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of just like not socializing like I was.

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And like meeting new people,

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I almost like don’t know how to act.

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I don’t know how to like be the social person

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I was like before this.

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So I don’t know,

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is that like something you’re struggling with as well?

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Yeah, so I would say like definitely in the beginning

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in January when I was just like ready to essentially,

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to be honest, like forget about cancer.

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I wanted to create this whole nother like Rosalina.

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And I was trying to create someone

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who was different from how I was pre-cancer.

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So I wanted to be like extroverted

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and I wanted to just be someone who,

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who I guess I’ve always secretly wanted to be in a way.

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So I try to be super social.

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I try to forget about what happened to me in the past year.

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And so when I was making new friends,

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they don’t know what I want to do.

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You’re new to LA as well.

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You sound like you moved to LA

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and like had like a social circle.

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So you’re having to build a social circle.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I had to build friendships.

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I had to start that all over essentially,

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which I’m used to and I don’t mind doing that.

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But I try to mask what happened to me.

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Then it got into the point that like I couldn’t do that.

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And when I was trying to be someone,

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not that who I’m not because like,

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people change all the time and you know,

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you can do whatever you want.

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You can be whoever you want.

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But essentially I felt deep inside

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that I was like lying to myself

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and not embracing like what I went through

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because essentially I am a breast cancer survivor

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and I need to remember that.

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And so I would try to act normal, be normal, live more,

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like vicariously, eat whatever I want,

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do whatever I want essentially.

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And I think it all caught up to me.

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I just thought of this right now

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and I wanted to mention this

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because this makes so much sense.

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So when I was trying to be someone else

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and mask the trauma that I went through

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and how I mentioned it felt like I was lying to myself,

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I did that because in my mind,

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I thought if people knew that I went through breast cancer,

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would they still want to be my friend?

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And I know that sounds so disheartening for sure,

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but I really felt that way in the beginning.

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And so I tried to push that away as much as possible.

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But what I realized and what I was working through

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with my spiritual coach and my therapist

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is that you need to be true to yourself.

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And if people don’t accept you,

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especially since you’ve gone through this traumatic experience

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and it doesn’t wholeheartedly define who you are,

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you’re so much more than just a breast cancer survivor,

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then they’re not worth your time.

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And so that’s how I shifted my mindset of just like,

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if you’re not filling my cup essentially,

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what you can provide to me and what I can provide to you

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in the sense of who we are as people,

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not necessarily what I’m labeled as,

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and you’re not worth my time.

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I think so unfairly too, I kept comparing me to you.

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I kept being like, Rosalina’s doing so great.

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She’s just living life and just really like,

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I mean, I was just like a disaster crying all the time

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and I had a mess and that I’d see you

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and going to concerts and vacations.

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And I’m just like, she’s doing great.

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Why can’t I be like her?

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I know that’s so unfair because our situations

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are so different, but I kept doing that.

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And I think that that for me was like so detrimental,

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I think to my own mental health.

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Like I had nothing to do with you.

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It was like me projecting like,

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this is how I should be doing this.

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And then on the other hand, like you’re doing it.

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And then you’re saying like, it all caught up to you.

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Like there’s only so much, not that you can fake it,

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because I don’t think you were faking it.

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I think you were just trying so hard to make something work

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that wasn’t working, like that wasn’t fitting.

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Like, is that what you’re saying?

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That’s exactly what I’m saying.

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Yep.

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Right.

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And like, it’s unfair for me to compare my situation

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to your situation where it’s me have different,

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like our jobs are different,

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who we are as people are so different.

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Like it’s not fair to do that.

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But I think like I was actually like,

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I in me doing so was like detrimental to my own mental health.

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It’s hard to not compare yourself, right?

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It is hard.

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When you go on social media and you see,

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you know, all the happy faces and everyone who like

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finished treatment and just going off with their lives,

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like you wonder, shit, am I doing something wrong?

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But I think just re-centering yourself

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and sometimes even getting off of social media

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and just, you know, focusing on who you are,

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who you want to be and what you’re currently going through

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is valid.

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Right.

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And there’s no one size fits all

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on how everyone should be handling post-treatment.

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I mean, there really isn’t.

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And it’s like so important, I think, to like note that.

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And I think we’re all just like doing the best we can.

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And now just also trying to figure out like

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what works for us.

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Like, and I think for me, I don’t know if you are in like,

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what fills my cup?

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Yes, yes.

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The analogy of like, what is filling my cup?

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What is not?

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And that I think in the last,

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I’d say like the last month or so, month and a half or so,

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has been like a big thing for me of like picking

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and choosing what is gonna be worth it.

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What’s gonna be, right?

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Like what’s gonna bring me joy?

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What is gonna fulfill me?

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What is, and I think like allowing myself to do that,

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you know, like, listen, I can check every list,

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they do everything on my checklist of things I wanna do

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to my apartment, you know, like, you know,

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keeping my life organized and tidy

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in every sense and like, I could check all that off,

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but like, is that gonna really fill my cup?

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Or like if me going to brunch with new friends,

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you know, meeting new people,

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having a different experience, gonna fill my cup.

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You know, even though I don’t get all those things done.

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So that I think has like been the balance.

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I’m trying to find the balance.

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I think that there’s been like a whole collection of things

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that like we have both adapted, you know,

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what has worked for us to get us to this point.

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So what are some of the things that you have done?

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Maintaining just a close connection with friends,

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but also with my family.

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After this cancer shit, you know,

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we’ve created more of a closer connection.

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And I value, even though I valued family before,

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I feel like I value it more now.

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I value my partner.

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We have a close bond and he’s my best friend.

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I value sleep.

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Before cancer, I would go to sleep at like 2 a.m., 3 a.m.

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It’s just fucking insane sometimes.

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So I definitely don’t do that anymore.

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And I value my sleep.

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Creating an environment that’s less stressful

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and just doing things that make me happy.

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So in October, I got a new job

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and I’ve been working there, you know, less than a year.

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And I feel so happy and appreciative.

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And I have a work-life balance.

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And whenever I need to go to the doctor’s appointment,

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I don’t need to like over-explain myself.

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You know, I think the whole first few months of 2022,

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I was really overworking myself, like very much so.

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I felt because my employers were so amazing

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and gave me the time off.

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And so when I came back that I had to be on and 100%

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and I work with two very young children.

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Jonna is a nanny, by the way.

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Yeah, a nanny in New York.

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And it was killing me, like literally from every standpoint,

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like emotionally, physically, I was so exhausted.

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And I was coming home and I was so miserable that it was,

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it was affecting my relationship with my partner.

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I didn’t have the energy to put into it.

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My partner had started a new job in the fall

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and we were both like, basically it felt like living,

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like we were living in the same house,

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but we were like living two different lives, you know?

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And it affected our relationship a lot.

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And I think, you know, now that I have been prioritizing,

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like doing fun things, making sure that I have that joy

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so that I’m not this miserable, sad,

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crying person all the time,

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I think has been definitely helping.

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I think all my relationships with my friends,

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you know, I think we all have those friends

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that we like been to, you know, having a bad day,

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but it was getting to the point where I was like talking

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to like even like my best friend, Maddie,

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and being like just crying all the time.

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And like, I don’t, it wasn’t fair to like put all of my shit

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on everybody else.

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So yes, I think being social has helped, you know,

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all of my relationships and trying to just like make sure

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that we’re having fun.

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I think it’s so important.

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But yeah, my work life was killing me.

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I had to like kind of sit down with my boss and say,

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you know, like not that I have to cut back on hours,

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but if I could come in later on certain days,

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I mean, I’m there from basically 7.45 to 7 PM.

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Like it’s almost a 12 hour day.

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Their life is a hectic.

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They have two kids that are under three years old.

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They want to go on all these trips and have friends

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and you know, they want to change my work schedule.

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It’s become like a lot to also manage my life and their life.

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So I’m trying to find that work balance.

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I think this summer is going to really be

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like a good test of that.

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My body is still healing.

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And I think that’s another thing that I absolutely

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need to remember is like, my body is needs to heal

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from the inside out too.

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And that’s like another thing that I feel like,

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I, you know, I’ve been really on myself about the weight

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that I gained during treatment.

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This is like right now the heaviest I’ve ever been.

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And then also being on the hormone meds,

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not being able to lose weight.

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And I’ve been really hard on myself.

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I mean, I’ve always had like a very pear shaped body.

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I’ve always gained weight in like my legs and my butt,

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but like, I feel like I gained weight in places

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that I never gained weight before this.

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And I was really being hard on myself.

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Now that I am off of the hormone meds

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and like my body is regulating back to my regulating back,

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like my hormones are starting to regulate now,

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I’ve lost some weight and like feeling really good about it.

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As terrified I am to like have my hormones back,

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like there is a part of me that feels like I’m back.

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My pre-cancer body is back, like by how I’m feeling,

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like I’m not in so much pain.

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I met with like a nutritionist from my cancer center

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to kind of like figure out what can I do?

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What can I do?

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I’m losing my rings every day, but I’m not losing any weight.

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Now I’m starting to see some weight loss,

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which is like kind of, it’s good for like my mental health too.

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Like to me, it’s like being being quote unquote healthy,

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which it is.

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I have never been this heavy in my life.

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I wanna be at a good weight.

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Just wanna feel good.

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Like honestly, that’s really what it comes down to.

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Like not from like a number on the scale,

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but like I just want to feel good in my body.

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I want my body to feel good.

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I want my body to feel like it’s being nourished.

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And it’s just like I was living in a foreign body

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and then trying to navigate that

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is just, it was hard trying to figure out,

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you know, like what I need to be eating more of,

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eating less of.

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I’m really trying to curve my like sweet tooth,

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which I feel like I have in the last couple of weeks

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of Matt and I are like big ice cream people.

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I love ice cream.

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That’s what I want at night.

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It’s terrible, you know, but I’ve like shifted to now

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like I have an apple in the evening.

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I’m big on apples right now.

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You know, so just like things like that,

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like those little minor, even like tweaks

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on my eating habits.

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You know, like trying to eat like a little bit more

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like gluten-free now than I am like I ever was.

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I’m like, you know, a lot of protein.

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I’m like, you know, especially for like surgery,

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healing and things like that,

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like trying to make sure that I have

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like a certain amount of protein every day.

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Yep.

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It’s kind of exhausting, but at the same time,

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it’s like, I know for the long run,

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it’s gonna be, it will get easier and I’ll feel better.

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Right.

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Do you feel that, I don’t know how many times you see

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the nutritionist, but have she given you some pointers

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that are helping you?

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She felt like really pissed after seeing her

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because it was just like, I like took time out of my day

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for her to give me the generic, you know,

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like eat your vegetables.

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Like I’m doing all that shit.

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I’m doing everything and my weight is not budging.

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And everything she told me, it’s like literally what like

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my oncologist was telling me the whole time,

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eat a balanced diet.

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Like, no, like she kind of pissed me off.

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So I’m not gonna lie to you.

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I also started to really shift, like,

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why am I not losing weight if I am like eating a lot better

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than I was and like making a lot healthier choices.

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And like, it really came down to like my gut health.

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Yes.

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Like post-chemo, like my gut has just like not been the same

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with my GI issues, you know,

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heartburn, stomach issues, pain, bloating.

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I feel bloated all the time.

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I’ve never experienced this before.

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And finally, I had talked to my radiology oncologist,

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nurse practitioner who I adore and she’s so thorough.

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She’s like one of the most thorough,

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like people that I’ve seen in my entire cancer journey.

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And she was just like,

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I need you to get tested for a bunch of things.

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Like, I need you to go see this gastro doctor.

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Like, let’s get this on track because it’s like,

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obviously affecting, like it’s affecting my mood.

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I’m exhausted, the fatigue, like I’m uncomfortable,

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have this like belly, like that I’ve never had before.

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I never gained weight in my stomach and now I do.

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And really bloated and uncomfortable feeling.

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And so I ended up going to see a gastro doctor, which,

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you know, they started to run a bunch of tests

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and I will have an endoscopy at the end of June

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to kind of like go in and like see.

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But she does believe that there is like a bacterial,

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you know, I have good bacteria fighting bad bacteria.

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And this is like just what chemo did to my gut.

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And like now just trying to figure out

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how to get myself like back on track.

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Like I’ve, I mean, I’m in like, like microbiome,

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like Reddit groups of just like, what did people do?

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Like what probiotics are you taking?

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Is it a probiotic that’s like,

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you think is messing up your gut?

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So yeah, I’ve been really just trying to get the gut

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under control, because I think that that is also affecting

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my fatigue, my mood.

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Not a lot of people talk about the health.

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Let me just say at all.

495

00:22:21,480 –> 00:22:26,480

So I am so happy that you’re,

496

00:22:26,680 –> 00:22:30,600

I think it’s your radiation oncologist nurse, right?

497

00:22:30,600 –> 00:22:31,760

Yeah, she’s great, I love her.

498

00:22:31,760 –> 00:22:35,080

Yes, I’m so happy that she mentioned that.

499

00:22:35,080 –> 00:22:38,440

Sometimes you just think that you can’t get the weight off

500

00:22:38,440 –> 00:22:40,320

because of the stuff they’re eating,

501

00:22:40,320 –> 00:22:45,320

where it could just be that you have a leaky gut

502

00:22:46,080 –> 00:22:50,400

and there are just bad bacteria that’s just taking over

503

00:22:50,400 –> 00:22:52,920

that, you know, it’s just really difficult

504

00:22:52,920 –> 00:22:55,240

for you to lose that weight.

505

00:22:55,240 –> 00:22:57,760

Yeah, I think that’s super important

506

00:22:57,760 –> 00:23:00,280

and it should be talked about more often.

507

00:23:00,280 –> 00:23:04,640

But I do want to say in the beginning, Shana,

508

00:23:04,640 –> 00:23:09,280

when you went back to work and you were going back full time

509

00:23:09,280 –> 00:23:14,280

and just hearing more and more about what you were going

510

00:23:14,280 –> 00:23:19,280

through and the long hours that you had to work,

511

00:23:19,880 –> 00:23:22,720

I really, really felt for you.

512

00:23:22,720 –> 00:23:26,320

And I wish that I could just like come

513

00:23:26,320 –> 00:23:28,000

and like just give you a hug.

514

00:23:28,000 –> 00:23:31,720

I knew that was drowning you.

515

00:23:31,720 –> 00:23:36,720

And I wanted you to make the choice of talking to your boss

516

00:23:39,560 –> 00:23:43,680

and explaining, hey, like my body is healing still

517

00:23:43,680 –> 00:23:47,960

and I mentally and physically like can’t do this.

518

00:23:47,960 –> 00:23:52,040

And I believe you had that conversation at one point

519

00:23:52,040 –> 00:23:56,320

with your boss and that is just so important

520

00:23:56,320 –> 00:24:01,000

just to being true to yourself and realizing

521

00:24:01,000 –> 00:24:05,120

what you can do and what you physically and mentally can’t do.

522

00:24:05,120 –> 00:24:08,360

I know, I think that it was really in my own way.

523

00:24:08,360 –> 00:24:10,880

You know, I put so much pressure on myself,

524

00:24:10,880 –> 00:24:13,320

like feeling like I needed to be a hundred percent,

525

00:24:13,320 –> 00:24:15,880

like rather than just saying like, you know,

526

00:24:15,880 –> 00:24:17,640

I need to go home a little early today,

527

00:24:17,640 –> 00:24:21,440

like I’m not doing well, you know, and just, I pushed it.

528

00:24:21,440 –> 00:24:23,760

I pushed it too hard because I didn’t want

529

00:24:23,760 –> 00:24:25,360

to disappoint anybody.

530

00:24:25,360 –> 00:24:26,280

Like I didn’t want, you know,

531

00:24:26,280 –> 00:24:29,160

like I didn’t want my employers to think like they waited,

532

00:24:29,160 –> 00:24:32,040

they got a temporary nanny and like waited for me to come back.

533

00:24:32,040 –> 00:24:34,400

They like wanted to keep me on and I wanted to be there.

534

00:24:34,400 –> 00:24:38,040

So I felt like I really needed to like perform, overperform.

535

00:24:38,040 –> 00:24:39,640

And I mean, I did the best I can,

536

00:24:39,640 –> 00:24:42,360

but I killed myself doing it and it wasn’t on them.

537

00:24:42,360 –> 00:24:43,200

It was me.

538

00:24:43,200 –> 00:24:45,080

It was the only pressure I was putting on myself.

539

00:24:45,080 –> 00:24:46,480

I didn’t feel like it was them.

540

00:24:46,480 –> 00:24:47,320

It was me.

541

00:24:47,320 –> 00:24:49,120

It was me doing it to myself.

542

00:24:49,120 –> 00:24:51,640

And like that also like isn’t a fair thing to do.

543

00:24:51,640 –> 00:24:56,080

I thought I just was on this like wave of like,

544

00:24:56,080 –> 00:24:57,680

you’re failing and get it together.

545

00:24:57,680 –> 00:25:00,400

And like, I saw I was overperforming in every aspect

546

00:25:00,400 –> 00:25:03,240

of my life and caught up to me and it wasn’t great.

547

00:25:03,240 –> 00:25:08,240

And you know, I’m trying to figure out how to,

548

00:25:08,880 –> 00:25:10,840

to find the balance and everything.

549

00:25:10,840 –> 00:25:12,520

Yeah. At the end of the day,

550

00:25:12,520 –> 00:25:14,440

like you don’t want to lose your job.

551

00:25:14,440 –> 00:25:17,040

No one wants to lose their job, right?

552

00:25:17,040 –> 00:25:19,720

So like, because they gave you all this time,

553

00:25:19,720 –> 00:25:23,160

like you felt like you needed to perform,

554

00:25:23,160 –> 00:25:25,880

like you needed to give everything to them

555

00:25:25,880 –> 00:25:27,920

because they gave everything to you.

556

00:25:27,920 –> 00:25:30,640

Right. And I, and I was like a machine.

557

00:25:30,640 –> 00:25:32,600

Like I felt like I’m not a machine.

558

00:25:32,600 –> 00:25:34,920

I need to rest.

559

00:25:34,920 –> 00:25:37,520

My body is still like in no shape to even be working

560

00:25:37,520 –> 00:25:38,600

these hours right now.

561

00:25:38,600 –> 00:25:41,600

And like, I had to shift it to like, I doing,

562

00:25:41,600 –> 00:25:43,400

I’m going to do the best I can.

563

00:25:43,400 –> 00:25:45,080

If it doesn’t work for them,

564

00:25:45,080 –> 00:25:46,880

then they have to do obviously what is best

565

00:25:46,880 –> 00:25:49,440

for their family dynamic and like their family.

566

00:25:49,440 –> 00:25:51,480

And like, if it’s replacing me, then it’s replacing me.

567

00:25:51,480 –> 00:25:53,800

But like, I can only give so much.

568

00:25:53,800 –> 00:25:56,400

And I think like, when it comes to even like a mind shift,

569

00:25:56,400 –> 00:26:00,520

I’ve had to mind shift a lot of things recently,

570

00:26:00,520 –> 00:26:03,800

I feel like of just when it comes to stress,

571

00:26:03,800 –> 00:26:05,280

like stress in general,

572

00:26:05,280 –> 00:26:09,200

what stress can do to your body is just so unbelievable.

573

00:26:09,200 –> 00:26:13,480

And I am somebody that always needs to be 20 steps ahead.

574

00:26:13,480 –> 00:26:17,120

I need to literally pick apart every situation

575

00:26:17,120 –> 00:26:21,280

and expect all of these crazy things

576

00:26:21,280 –> 00:26:22,960

that could ever possibly happen

577

00:26:22,960 –> 00:26:25,880

and that probably won’t because if I am caught off guard,

578

00:26:25,880 –> 00:26:28,440

it’s way worse for me.

579

00:26:28,440 –> 00:26:30,040

You know, like if I can at least expect

580

00:26:30,040 –> 00:26:33,000

that it’s going to happen and mentally prepare myself,

581

00:26:33,000 –> 00:26:35,160

I’m way better in that situation.

582

00:26:35,160 –> 00:26:37,880

But that requires so much energy, right?

583

00:26:37,880 –> 00:26:40,560

It requires like an obscene amount of energy

584

00:26:40,560 –> 00:26:41,680

to have to live like that.

585

00:26:41,680 –> 00:26:43,440

And that also causes a lot of stress.

586

00:26:43,440 –> 00:26:47,560

And like living in a body like that constantly is exhausting.

587

00:26:47,560 –> 00:26:48,440

I recognize it.

588

00:26:48,440 –> 00:26:50,560

I’ve recognized that I’ve lived my life like this,

589

00:26:50,560 –> 00:26:53,920

probably my entire life, which obviously comes

590

00:26:53,920 –> 00:26:58,920

from how I grew up and the amount of like chaos

591

00:26:59,880 –> 00:27:01,120

in the house that I grew up in.

592

00:27:01,120 –> 00:27:04,640

And these are coping mechanisms, defense mechanisms,

593

00:27:04,640 –> 00:27:05,960

like I’m aware of it.

594

00:27:05,960 –> 00:27:08,760

And I talk about it in therapy and my therapist,

595

00:27:08,760 –> 00:27:11,240

I mean, I was having like crazy, crazy,

596

00:27:11,240 –> 00:27:15,200

like basically like PTSD moments.

597

00:27:15,200 –> 00:27:19,600

Like I was having like very, very visual thoughts

598

00:27:19,600 –> 00:27:22,520

of like getting hit by a car, getting into car accidents,

599

00:27:22,520 –> 00:27:24,120

getting hit by a car with the baby,

600

00:27:24,120 –> 00:27:25,800

pushing the baby in the stroller that I was working at.

601

00:27:25,800 –> 00:27:27,160

Like that is crazy.

602

00:27:27,160 –> 00:27:28,680

Like, and it got to the point where I was in therapy

603

00:27:28,680 –> 00:27:29,760

being like, am I crazy?

604

00:27:29,760 –> 00:27:31,800

Like, why am I thinking like this?

605

00:27:31,800 –> 00:27:34,040

I don’t even know why I’m thinking like this.

606

00:27:34,040 –> 00:27:35,800

Like they’re obviously like,

607

00:27:35,800 –> 00:27:37,800

this could happen to me at any point, you know?

608

00:27:37,800 –> 00:27:38,640

I could be walking down the street

609

00:27:38,640 –> 00:27:39,760

and get hit by a car at any point,

610

00:27:39,760 –> 00:27:41,560

but like why in this moment right now

611

00:27:41,560 –> 00:27:44,120

am I having these thoughts, right?

612

00:27:44,120 –> 00:27:47,480

And she’s like, well, just like you need to start

613

00:27:47,480 –> 00:27:49,200

like holding space for it and saying like, you know,

614

00:27:49,200 –> 00:27:51,240

like, yeah, like, but what if that doesn’t happen?

615

00:27:51,240 –> 00:27:53,240

Have a thought, you don’t have to live in that thought,

616

00:27:53,240 –> 00:27:56,560

like recognize it and let’s move forward, you know?

617

00:27:56,560 –> 00:28:00,520

And trying to incorporate that into my everyday life

618

00:28:00,520 –> 00:28:03,040

has been like a lot more helpful.

619

00:28:03,040 –> 00:28:04,520

I’m not sitting here obsessing over things

620

00:28:04,520 –> 00:28:06,560

that could possibly happen that will probably never happen.

621

00:28:06,560 –> 00:28:09,520

And I’m saving that energy for other things.

622

00:28:09,520 –> 00:28:11,160

But going in situations like, you know what?

623

00:28:11,160 –> 00:28:12,920

If that does happen, we’ll cross that bridge

624

00:28:12,920 –> 00:28:14,440

when it does happen, you know?

625

00:28:14,440 –> 00:28:19,440

And it’s definitely been like the way better place to live.

626

00:28:20,400 –> 00:28:22,200

And granted, like, these are things

627

00:28:22,200 –> 00:28:23,840

that like I’m learning every day.

628

00:28:23,840 –> 00:28:25,240

This isn’t like happened overnight.

629

00:28:25,240 –> 00:28:26,640

Like I have therapy every week,

630

00:28:26,640 –> 00:28:29,040

but like, you know, I have to constantly try

631

00:28:29,040 –> 00:28:31,160

to think this way and shift these thoughts.

632

00:28:31,160 –> 00:28:32,320

And like, yes, it’s exhausting,

633

00:28:32,320 –> 00:28:33,480

but I do believe it’s helpful.

634

00:28:33,480 –> 00:28:34,720

It’s just progress.

635

00:28:34,720 –> 00:28:36,360

And I also don’t need to also live in a place

636

00:28:36,360 –> 00:28:38,000

where I just like have to just look

637

00:28:38,000 –> 00:28:39,120

at the bright side of everything.

638

00:28:39,120 –> 00:28:41,520

Like that’s also not a fair way to live as well.

639

00:28:41,520 –> 00:28:44,240

So like literally recognizing like, yeah, like this,

640

00:28:44,240 –> 00:28:46,440

this sucks, but I don’t have to live that.

641

00:28:46,440 –> 00:28:47,680

Exactly.

642

00:28:47,680 –> 00:28:49,080

Living that way is like,

643

00:28:49,080 –> 00:28:51,360

it’s like I’m living in a better body, right?

644

00:28:51,360 –> 00:28:52,800

That’s just like so good.

645

00:28:52,800 –> 00:28:56,880

Like, I’m so glad you’ve like gotten to that point.

646

00:28:56,880 –> 00:28:59,320

Well, your mind and body are so connected.

647

00:28:59,320 –> 00:29:01,200

You know, like I said, it’s not every day is like that,

648

00:29:01,200 –> 00:29:02,440

but like I’m learning more and more.

649

00:29:02,440 –> 00:29:03,440

But you’re learning, yes.

650

00:29:03,440 –> 00:29:04,280

Yeah, exactly.

651

00:29:04,280 –> 00:29:05,840

I mean, yeah, nobody’s ever like,

652

00:29:05,840 –> 00:29:07,360

I can’t snap my fingers and be like,

653

00:29:07,360 –> 00:29:10,360

oh, this is, today I’m gonna live like this.

654

00:29:10,360 –> 00:29:13,040

Like, no, I think just, you know, like we always,

655

00:29:13,040 –> 00:29:15,280

you know, we’ve talked about like giving ourselves grace

656

00:29:15,280 –> 00:29:16,400

on this podcast a lot.

657

00:29:16,400 –> 00:29:18,440

And I think it’s easier said than done.

658

00:29:18,440 –> 00:29:22,000

We all go through different things in life.

659

00:29:22,000 –> 00:29:24,800

And it’s always going to be a thing

660

00:29:24,800 –> 00:29:27,480

where you’re continuously working on yourself.

661

00:29:27,480 –> 00:29:29,120

It’s never gonna end.

662

00:29:29,120 –> 00:29:30,960

You’re gonna have good days, you’re gonna have bad days.

663

00:29:30,960 –> 00:29:33,880

But as long as you recognize that the things

664

00:29:33,880 –> 00:29:35,760

that are not working for you anymore,

665

00:29:35,760 –> 00:29:38,760

you make progress into changing that little by little.

666

00:29:38,760 –> 00:29:41,440

And you know, it’s not gonna change overnight.

667

00:29:41,440 –> 00:29:44,160

What you mentioned, Shauna, like it just takes time.

668

00:29:44,160 –> 00:29:45,320

You need to be patient.

669

00:29:46,280 –> 00:29:51,280

Some of the things in terms of just nutrition

670

00:29:51,280 –> 00:29:54,560

and staying active.

671

00:29:54,560 –> 00:29:57,800

One of the things that, you know,

672

00:29:57,800 –> 00:30:02,800

I did in the beginning of this year was dancing, right?

673

00:30:03,600 –> 00:30:07,360

And that is essentially just cardio.

674

00:30:07,360 –> 00:30:12,080

But what was missing was the strength training,

675

00:30:12,080 –> 00:30:16,080

increasing my bone health and making sure

676

00:30:16,080 –> 00:30:19,600

that I’m constantly focusing on that

677

00:30:19,600 –> 00:30:24,600

and also combat the side effects that I have been getting

678

00:30:26,720 –> 00:30:31,280

in terms of the aromatous inhibitor and the Lupron shots.

679

00:30:31,280 –> 00:30:36,280

I decided that, I believe it’s the past five weeks now,

680

00:30:36,280 –> 00:30:39,280

I joined a gym and the primary reason

681

00:30:39,280 –> 00:30:44,280

is to start lifting weights, obviously just going small

682

00:30:44,640 –> 00:30:46,320

and then maybe potentially going big.

683

00:30:46,320 –> 00:30:49,960

But, you know, my whole point of that

684

00:30:49,960 –> 00:30:54,360

is just to improve my mobility of my left arm.

685

00:30:54,360 –> 00:30:56,000

But, you know, as I mentioned,

686

00:30:56,000 –> 00:31:00,080

it’s essentially just to prevent bone loss,

687

00:31:00,080 –> 00:31:02,160

especially since I’m on this medication.

688

00:31:02,160 –> 00:31:06,400

The other thing that I did was my boyfriend

689

00:31:06,400 –> 00:31:11,400

has an electric bike he got as a gift from his work.

690

00:31:12,760 –> 00:31:15,120

I mean, it’s like a rental, but I say it’s a gift

691

00:31:15,120 –> 00:31:18,040

because I just think it’s amazing that his company

692

00:31:18,040 –> 00:31:21,320

just rented him this electric bike.

693

00:31:21,320 –> 00:31:26,200

But he was just like, hey, you should purchase a bike too

694

00:31:26,200 –> 00:31:28,080

so we can go on bike rides.

695

00:31:28,080 –> 00:31:30,880

I purchased the bike, not an electric bike,

696

00:31:30,880 –> 00:31:33,680

but I bought it at a pawn shop

697

00:31:33,680 –> 00:31:38,040

and I got it fixed up a bit, just checked,

698

00:31:38,040 –> 00:31:39,960

like went to the bike shop,

699

00:31:39,960 –> 00:31:41,800

checked for inspections and stuff.

700

00:31:41,800 –> 00:31:45,520

We’ve been going on bike rides just a few times

701

00:31:45,520 –> 00:31:49,560

going down Santa Monica, so that’s been super fun

702

00:31:49,560 –> 00:31:53,680

and just another way to stay active.

703

00:31:53,680 –> 00:31:55,680

Nat and I do that a lot when we’re out East

704

00:31:55,680 –> 00:31:56,800

and it’s fun.

705

00:31:56,800 –> 00:31:59,640

It is, it really is, yeah.

706

00:31:59,640 –> 00:32:01,600

Just get that fresh air.

707

00:32:01,600 –> 00:32:03,960

I just feel like you’ve accomplished so much

708

00:32:03,960 –> 00:32:07,600

the day instead of just like sitting on the couch.

709

00:32:08,560 –> 00:32:12,840

In terms of just nutritional education,

710

00:32:12,840 –> 00:32:17,600

being up to date in the knowledge that I can gain

711

00:32:17,600 –> 00:32:21,440

from different sources that I find online,

712

00:32:21,440 –> 00:32:24,800

I’ve been following different Instagram accounts

713

00:32:24,800 –> 00:32:28,080

and also podcasts about holistic health

714

00:32:28,080 –> 00:32:32,240

and ways to better eat your food essentially.

715

00:32:32,240 –> 00:32:35,120

So one of the Instagram accounts that I follow,

716

00:32:35,120 –> 00:32:37,360

her name is Glucose Goddess.

717

00:32:37,360 –> 00:32:42,360

She is a biochemist who creates simplistic comparison charts

718

00:32:42,520 –> 00:32:46,080

of different food groups and how to eat the food

719

00:32:46,080 –> 00:32:49,120

that could flatten or decrease your glucose spikes.

720

00:32:49,120 –> 00:32:51,640

The key things that I’ve learned from her

721

00:32:51,640 –> 00:32:55,240

is that big glucose spikes lead to inflammation,

722

00:32:55,240 –> 00:32:59,640

aging, gaining weight and not being able to burn fat,

723

00:32:59,640 –> 00:33:03,600

deregulated hormones, energy swings, hunger and cravings.

724

00:33:03,600 –> 00:33:08,120

How she calculated the way that you should eat your food

725

00:33:08,120 –> 00:33:11,800

in the right order is to eat your veggies first,

726

00:33:11,800 –> 00:33:15,400

then your protein and fats, then your starch.

727

00:33:15,400 –> 00:33:17,280

And if you want to eat dessert,

728

00:33:17,280 –> 00:33:19,640

it is best to do it after you eat a meal

729

00:33:19,640 –> 00:33:21,600

and not on an empty stomach.

730

00:33:21,600 –> 00:33:25,080

And then also after you eat a meal,

731

00:33:25,080 –> 00:33:28,640

you walk to just get all that food

732

00:33:28,640 –> 00:33:32,200

to just process well in your body and such like that.

733

00:33:32,200 –> 00:33:35,320

So I’ve been doing that for a few months now.

734

00:33:35,320 –> 00:33:38,160

I’ve been eating my vegetables first

735

00:33:38,160 –> 00:33:40,680

and then going through that order.

736

00:33:40,680 –> 00:33:45,680

And I definitely feel that my cravings has lessened for sure.

737

00:33:47,480 –> 00:33:51,200

I just felt like my overall mood has changed.

738

00:33:51,200 –> 00:33:54,400

The other Instagram account that I’ve been following

739

00:33:54,400 –> 00:33:58,800

for the past two years, but I just love who she is.

740

00:33:58,800 –> 00:34:02,600

I love her personality and I love who she is as a person.

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Her name is Organic Olivia.

742

00:34:04,480 –> 00:34:05,920

She’s an herbalist.

743

00:34:05,920 –> 00:34:09,720

She’s like 28 years old, so she’s kind of similar to my age.

744

00:34:09,720 –> 00:34:13,360

But even though she has her own set of brands,

745

00:34:13,360 –> 00:34:18,080

she sells like tincture, herbs and different supplements.

746

00:34:18,080 –> 00:34:21,200

But she takes you through the things

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00:34:21,200 –> 00:34:24,280

that she’s currently going through in her life.

748

00:34:24,280 –> 00:34:27,120

Just a couple of things that she was going through

749

00:34:27,120 –> 00:34:31,880

is like minimizing caffeine and the reason why she’s doing that.

750

00:34:31,880 –> 00:34:35,720

And she kind of takes you throughout that whole journey,

751

00:34:35,720 –> 00:34:37,640

which I think is like absolutely amazing

752

00:34:37,640 –> 00:34:40,240

and sometimes like inspirational as well,

753

00:34:40,240 –> 00:34:41,360

because then you’re like,

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00:34:41,360 –> 00:34:44,040

oh, should I minimize caffeine as well?

755

00:34:44,040 –> 00:34:48,720

She also did like a challenge where she walked

756

00:34:48,720 –> 00:34:53,000

like three times a day for the past, I think, couple months.

757

00:34:53,000 –> 00:34:58,800

And she noticed that her overall mood has changed, has elevated.

758

00:34:58,800 –> 00:35:03,280

She felt like in terms of her weight, she lost a few pounds.

759

00:35:03,280 –> 00:35:04,840

She feels great.

760

00:35:04,840 –> 00:35:08,840

Whenever she shares her stories on Instagram,

761

00:35:08,840 –> 00:35:11,680

I think it just comes organically

762

00:35:11,680 –> 00:35:14,560

and it’s something that she’s currently dealing with

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00:35:14,560 –> 00:35:17,320

and she wants to share with her followers,

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00:35:17,320 –> 00:35:22,480

like what she’s doing to better her lifestyle, her health.

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00:35:22,480 –> 00:35:26,160

And she’s continuously like working and being educated.

766

00:35:26,160 –> 00:35:29,360

And the other thing I’ve learned, I don’t know if it’s just me.

767

00:35:29,360 –> 00:35:31,960

I don’t know if I’m just like the dumb one, who knows?

768

00:35:31,960 –> 00:35:34,920

But I learned about dental health from her.

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00:35:34,920 –> 00:35:41,040

And one of the key things I learned that I completely changed

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00:35:41,040 –> 00:35:49,240

like how I do my oral health is essentially flossing before brushing.

771

00:35:49,240 –> 00:35:54,720

I’ve always done it where I brush my teeth first, then I floss.

772

00:35:54,720 –> 00:36:00,000

But it’s a total game changer for me when I floss first, then brush.

773

00:36:00,000 –> 00:36:03,960

I don’t know about you, Shauna, if you do that in that order.

774

00:36:03,960 –> 00:36:05,440

No, I think I’ve done it backwards.

775

00:36:05,440 –> 00:36:06,400

Yeah.

776

00:36:06,400 –> 00:36:07,960

No.

777

00:36:07,960 –> 00:36:08,760

Why so?

778

00:36:08,760 –> 00:36:09,520

Just out of curiosity.

779

00:36:09,520 –> 00:36:13,320

What I’ve learned is that you want to take the gunk out

780

00:36:13,320 –> 00:36:19,440

because if you brush your teeth first, it pushes the gunk in.

781

00:36:19,440 –> 00:36:26,840

And it might be harder for you to take everything out once you floss after.

782

00:36:26,840 –> 00:36:31,320

When I’ve been flossing first and then brushing after like six months.

783

00:36:31,320 –> 00:36:36,680

When I went to see the dentist, he mentioned that my teeth looked great.

784

00:36:36,680 –> 00:36:41,800

Because a lot of times when I’ve been to the dentist in the past,

785

00:36:41,800 –> 00:36:45,360

they always tell me that I need to floss more.

786

00:36:45,360 –> 00:36:50,400

I bleed with my gums and sometimes I don’t look healthy.

787

00:36:50,400 –> 00:36:56,120

But at this point in my life, they have been looking healthy

788

00:36:56,120 –> 00:36:59,080

because I’ve been flossing every fucking day.

789

00:36:59,080 –> 00:37:04,120

So yeah, I think oral health is important as well.

790

00:37:04,120 –> 00:37:07,520

And also because chemo can really mess with your teeth as well.

791

00:37:07,520 –> 00:37:14,560

And that is exactly why I’ve decided to take my oral health seriously.

792

00:37:14,560 –> 00:37:20,480

In terms of a podcast, I listened to Dr. Gonzalez.

793

00:37:20,480 –> 00:37:23,320

I believe his podcast is called Heal Thyself.

794

00:37:23,320 –> 00:37:28,440

He’s a naturopathic doctor who is focusing on giving people the tools they need

795

00:37:28,440 –> 00:37:32,520

to truly heal from the inside out and bringing in experts

796

00:37:32,520 –> 00:37:35,680

to talk about relative issues about health.

797

00:37:35,680 –> 00:37:39,560

Bringing in experts, what are the things that we need to look for currently?

798

00:37:39,560 –> 00:37:44,760

What is being toxic in our environment, in the clothes that we wear,

799

00:37:44,760 –> 00:37:47,120

in the makeup that we buy?

800

00:37:47,120 –> 00:37:50,760

And then talks about stress and gut health, he mentions as well.

801

00:37:50,760 –> 00:37:55,040

So I just find his podcast to be super informative.

802

00:37:55,040 –> 00:37:58,080

I just think that overall knowledge is great to have.

803

00:37:58,080 –> 00:38:02,360

One of the experts that he brought in, her name is Dr. Yvonne.

804

00:38:02,360 –> 00:38:04,600

She’s a toxicity expert.

805

00:38:04,600 –> 00:38:09,520

Some of the things that I’ve learned from her is purchasing skincare,

806

00:38:09,520 –> 00:38:12,960

makeup products that are non-toxic.

807

00:38:12,960 –> 00:38:17,040

Cosmetics and personal care products are the most underrepresented sources

808

00:38:17,040 –> 00:38:18,840

of toxic exposure.

809

00:38:18,840 –> 00:38:21,560

She empowers you to be more educated and knowledgeable

810

00:38:21,560 –> 00:38:27,600

in learning to read the ingredient labels and how to live a low toxic life.

811

00:38:27,600 –> 00:38:29,840

So I follow her on Instagram as well.

812

00:38:29,840 –> 00:38:35,920

And I’ve gradually started to shift over some things.

813

00:38:35,920 –> 00:38:39,840

But then I kind of stopped that.

814

00:38:39,840 –> 00:38:46,040

And then I kind of continued with the bronzer that I used to wear and I loved.

815

00:38:46,040 –> 00:38:53,080

And now I shifted back into only using clean makeup products

816

00:38:53,080 –> 00:38:54,840

and personal care products.

817

00:38:54,840 –> 00:38:57,920

The thing that she mentions that you want to get rid of stuff

818

00:38:57,920 –> 00:39:00,680

is one thing at a time, right?

819

00:39:00,680 –> 00:39:03,840

You don’t want to do it all at once because you’re going to overwhelm yourself.

820

00:39:03,840 –> 00:39:11,160

Definitely did it in different stages because I just want to live a low toxic lifestyle

821

00:39:11,160 –> 00:39:16,400

as much as I can in terms of the products that I use on my body.

822

00:39:16,400 –> 00:39:21,640

Those are the IG accounts and the podcasts that I’ve been listening to.

823

00:39:21,640 –> 00:39:26,240

And then lastly, I just want to mention I went to see a naturopathic doctor.

824

00:39:26,240 –> 00:39:34,360

And the reason why I decided to see one is because I loved, absolutely loved

825

00:39:34,360 –> 00:39:37,160

the naturopathic doctor that I had back in Seattle.

826

00:39:37,160 –> 00:39:44,000

I felt that I’ve learned so much more than a traditional physician

827

00:39:44,000 –> 00:39:45,560

that I’ve seen in the past.

828

00:39:45,560 –> 00:39:52,240

In my personal opinion, I felt that they provide way more information

829

00:39:52,240 –> 00:39:59,560

of just understanding how your body works, being more educated on what causes inflammation

830

00:39:59,560 –> 00:40:01,480

and toxins in your body.

831

00:40:01,480 –> 00:40:08,120

Also, they talk about gut health, where I feel like my primary physician does not

832

00:40:08,120 –> 00:40:11,640

and I’ve never had any doctor talk about gut health.

833

00:40:11,640 –> 00:40:14,600

We talked about different tests.

834

00:40:14,600 –> 00:40:21,000

I took a microbiome gut health test and I also took a heavy metal exam.

835

00:40:21,000 –> 00:40:26,000

I actually just saw her this past Wednesday and we went through my results.

836

00:40:26,000 –> 00:40:30,160

And essentially with the heavy metals test, everything was normal.

837

00:40:30,160 –> 00:40:37,200

In terms of the gut health, I do have a few information of just bad bacteria.

838

00:40:37,200 –> 00:40:42,280

And so she’s been helping me in trying to get rid of those.

839

00:40:42,280 –> 00:40:46,960

But one of the things that I love about her is the first thing that I mentioned to her

840

00:40:46,960 –> 00:40:48,840

was I have breast cancer.

841

00:40:48,840 –> 00:40:55,640

You cannot prescribe me with anything that could disrupt the current medication that

842

00:40:55,640 –> 00:41:01,000

I have or anything that produces hormones, estrogen or periosteone.

843

00:41:01,000 –> 00:41:04,200

And so I specifically mentioned that to her.

844

00:41:04,200 –> 00:41:10,600

I absolutely love her and I feel that I’ve gotten so much education from her in terms

845

00:41:10,600 –> 00:41:17,000

of different ways that I can take care of my body besides just seeing an oncologist

846

00:41:17,000 –> 00:41:19,680

and how I can prevent cancer.

847

00:41:19,680 –> 00:41:24,360

Because the thing that I got frustrated with my oncologist, maybe I just thought that my

848

00:41:24,360 –> 00:41:30,520

oncologist is knowledgeable in everything and I felt like maybe she could tell me about

849

00:41:30,520 –> 00:41:32,240

how to take care of my body in general.

850

00:41:32,240 –> 00:41:38,720

But essentially they don’t provide that information and I think they are only an expert in oncology

851

00:41:38,720 –> 00:41:39,720

per se.

852

00:41:39,720 –> 00:41:42,720

They’re not an expert in nutrition or any of that.

853

00:41:42,720 –> 00:41:47,280

So I don’t think they could really provide you in-depth information.

854

00:41:47,280 –> 00:41:53,280

I was really frustrated with my oncologist and I was like, okay, maybe she’s not the

855

00:41:53,280 –> 00:41:56,640

right person to ask these specific questions.

856

00:41:56,640 –> 00:42:01,760

I think it needs to be someone else who is more knowledgeable.

857

00:42:01,760 –> 00:42:09,080

I definitely learned so much from my naturopathic doctor and those are the steps I’ve gradually

858

00:42:09,080 –> 00:42:10,080

been taking.

859

00:42:10,080 –> 00:42:13,360

It didn’t happen all in one night.

860

00:42:13,360 –> 00:42:19,880

These have gradually been a thing over the past six months that I’ve been educating

861

00:42:19,880 –> 00:42:20,880

myself.

862

00:42:20,880 –> 00:42:24,320

I think that this was like a kind of like love that we did this episode.

863

00:42:24,320 –> 00:42:33,080

I feel like there’s no rhyme or reason to getting your body back into some sort of rhythm.

864

00:42:33,080 –> 00:42:41,960

It could be anything from mental health, gut health, diet, exercise, going out with friends.

865

00:42:41,960 –> 00:42:48,640

Such a wide variety of things to do to maintain whatever this quote unquote healthy lifestyle

866

00:42:48,640 –> 00:42:49,640

is.

867

00:42:49,640 –> 00:42:50,640

Everybody is different.

868

00:42:50,640 –> 00:42:51,640

Exactly.

869

00:42:51,640 –> 00:42:56,680

It’s whatever works for you mentally and physically.

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00:42:56,680 –> 00:43:00,520

Thank you all for listening and supporting our podcast.

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00:43:00,520 –> 00:43:05,760

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00:43:05,760 –> 00:43:08,560

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00:43:08,560 –> 00:43:13,620

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